another swing and miss by racist plantation owner masta bill seff

[Dugout DickStone]

Definitely top five in the country.  

Getting this thread off topic and giving into the BMW jedi mind trick:  Do you seriously think that or are you just talking?  I think KU will be much better than most on here but they have big holes.  When a Morris twin is supposed to be the leader of your program you aren't a top 5 team.  If Selby makes it and can actually lead them it's a different story.  But, I don't see this team letting that freshman lead them.  I see them as probably a bit better than but very similar to the KSU Michael Beasley/Bill Walker team.  Honestly, if Selby doesn't make it (he probably will) or he can't be a leader (he probably can't..at least out of the gates) the leader of your team will be Brady Morningstar.  You better hope Self is smart enough to start him the entire season if so.  

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  KU is way out in front with McLemore, and Hopkins could commit to KU after his visit this weekend.  With a potential NBA lockout looming, KU would have another year out of Selby and Mc. Morris.  

As for this season, I definitely expect KU to be a top 10 team with Selby.  Mc. Morris led KU in scoring during conference play last season.  He and his brother Markieff just continue to improve each and every year.  They create matchup problems because of their ability to shoot from the perimeter.  Then you've got guys like Elijah Johnson (5-star #24 on Rivals) and Thomas Robinson (4-star #31 on Rivals) who didn't get much of a chance to show what they could do last year with as loaded as KU was, but they've got the potential to be stars.  Add experienced players like Taylor, Reed, Little, and Morningstar to that mix, and I'd say KU is quite a bit deeper and more talented than the Walker/Beasley K-State team that you are comparing them to.  Releford and Withey were both 4-star recruits with some big-time offers, and they're probably going to be buried on the bench.  

I just don't see ten teams that are hands down better than KU next year.  

pfft, Duke's second team is better.

[pissclams]

Definitely top five in the country. 

Getting this thread off topic and giving into the BMW jedi mind trick:  Do you seriously think that or are you just talking?  I think KU will be much better than most on here but they have big holes.  When a Morris twin is supposed to be the leader of your program you aren't a top 5 team.  If Selby makes it and can actually lead them it's a different story.  But, I don't see this team letting that freshman lead them.  I see them as probably a bit better than but very similar to the KSU Michael Beasley/Bill Walker team.  Honestly, if Selby doesn't make it (he probably will) or he can't be a leader (he probably can't..at least out of the gates) the leader of your team will be Brady Morningstar.  You better hope Self is smart enough to start him the entire season if so. 

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  KU is way out in front with McLemore, and Hopkins could commit to KU after his visit this weekend.  With a potential NBA lockout looming, KU would have another year out of Selby and Mc. Morris. 

As for this season, I definitely expect KU to be a top 10 team with Selby.  Mc. Morris led KU in scoring during conference play last season.  He and his brother Markieff just continue to improve each and every year.  They create matchup problems because of their ability to shoot from the perimeter.  Then you've got guys like Elijah Johnson (5-star #24 on Rivals) and Thomas Robinson (4-star #31 on Rivals) who didn't get much of a chance to show what they could do last year with as loaded as KU was, but they've got the potential to be stars.  Add experienced players like Taylor, Reed, Little, and Morningstar to that mix, and I'd say KU is quite a bit deeper and more talented than the Walker/Beasley K-State team that you are comparing them to.  Releford and Withey were both 4-star recruits with some big-time offers, and they're probably going to be buried on the bench. 

I just don't see ten teams that are hands down better than KU next year. 

Talent is only one part of the equation, as a KU fan you should know the importance that game experience plays.  A huge part of K-State's run last season was due to the experience our team had.  KU lacks game time experience.  The talent is there but the #1 question you guys will face this year is how quickly the team comes together on the floor.

[OregonSmock]

Definitely top five in the country. 

Getting this thread off topic and giving into the BMW jedi mind trick:  Do you seriously think that or are you just talking?  I think KU will be much better than most on here but they have big holes.  When a Morris twin is supposed to be the leader of your program you aren't a top 5 team.  If Selby makes it and can actually lead them it's a different story.  But, I don't see this team letting that freshman lead them.  I see them as probably a bit better than but very similar to the KSU Michael Beasley/Bill Walker team.  Honestly, if Selby doesn't make it (he probably will) or he can't be a leader (he probably can't..at least out of the gates) the leader of your team will be Brady Morningstar.  You better hope Self is smart enough to start him the entire season if so. 

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  KU is way out in front with McLemore, and Hopkins could commit to KU after his visit this weekend.  With a potential NBA lockout looming, KU would have another year out of Selby and Mc. Morris. 

As for this season, I definitely expect KU to be a top 10 team with Selby.  Mc. Morris led KU in scoring during conference play last season.  He and his brother Markieff just continue to improve each and every year.  They create matchup problems because of their ability to shoot from the perimeter.  Then you've got guys like Elijah Johnson (5-star #24 on Rivals) and Thomas Robinson (4-star #31 on Rivals) who didn't get much of a chance to show what they could do last year with as loaded as KU was, but they've got the potential to be stars.  Add experienced players like Taylor, Reed, Little, and Morningstar to that mix, and I'd say KU is quite a bit deeper and more talented than the Walker/Beasley K-State team that you are comparing them to.  Releford and Withey were both 4-star recruits with some big-time offers, and they're probably going to be buried on the bench. 

I just don't see ten teams that are hands down better than KU next year. 

Talent is only one part of the equation, as a KU fan you should know the importance that game experience plays.  A huge part of K-State's run last season was due to the experience our team had.  KU lacks game time experience.  The talent is there but the #1 question you guys will face this year is how quickly the team comes together on the floor.

Guys like Mc. Morris and Taylor will be three-year starters.  Morningstar, Little, and Reed are all seniors.  Markieff, Releford, and Withey have all been in the program now for three years.  KU will have plenty of experience next season. 

[steve dave]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

[pissclams]

Definitely top five in the country. 

Getting this thread off topic and giving into the BMW jedi mind trick:  Do you seriously think that or are you just talking?  I think KU will be much better than most on here but they have big holes.  When a Morris twin is supposed to be the leader of your program you aren't a top 5 team.  If Selby makes it and can actually lead them it's a different story.  But, I don't see this team letting that freshman lead them.  I see them as probably a bit better than but very similar to the KSU Michael Beasley/Bill Walker team.  Honestly, if Selby doesn't make it (he probably will) or he can't be a leader (he probably can't..at least out of the gates) the leader of your team will be Brady Morningstar.  You better hope Self is smart enough to start him the entire season if so. 

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  KU is way out in front with McLemore, and Hopkins could commit to KU after his visit this weekend.  With a potential NBA lockout looming, KU would have another year out of Selby and Mc. Morris. 

As for this season, I definitely expect KU to be a top 10 team with Selby.  Mc. Morris led KU in scoring during conference play last season.  He and his brother Markieff just continue to improve each and every year.  They create matchup problems because of their ability to shoot from the perimeter.  Then you've got guys like Elijah Johnson (5-star #24 on Rivals) and Thomas Robinson (4-star #31 on Rivals) who didn't get much of a chance to show what they could do last year with as loaded as KU was, but they've got the potential to be stars.  Add experienced players like Taylor, Reed, Little, and Morningstar to that mix, and I'd say KU is quite a bit deeper and more talented than the Walker/Beasley K-State team that you are comparing them to.  Releford and Withey were both 4-star recruits with some big-time offers, and they're probably going to be buried on the bench. 

I just don't see ten teams that are hands down better than KU next year. 

Talent is only one part of the equation, as a KU fan you should know the importance that game experience plays.  A huge part of K-State's run last season was due to the experience our team had.  KU lacks game time experience.  The talent is there but the #1 question you guys will face this year is how quickly the team comes together on the floor.

Guys like Mc. Morris and Taylor will be three-year starters.  Morningstar, Little, and Reed are all seniors.  Markieff, Releford, and Withey have all been in the program now for three years.  KU will have plenty of experience next season. 

Big difference betwen being in the program and playing significant minutes on the floor.  You're relying on the Morris twins, Taylor, and Reed to lead your team...Good luck with that and stay strong with the objectivity. 

I don't know why I even tried

[I_have_purplewood]

Definitely top five in the country. 

Getting this thread off topic and giving into the BMW jedi mind trick:  Do you seriously think that or are you just talking?  I think KU will be much better than most on here but they have big holes.  When a Morris twin is supposed to be the leader of your program you aren't a top 5 team.  If Selby makes it and can actually lead them it's a different story.  But, I don't see this team letting that freshman lead them.  I see them as probably a bit better than but very similar to the KSU Michael Beasley/Bill Walker team.  Honestly, if Selby doesn't make it (he probably will) or he can't be a leader (he probably can't..at least out of the gates) the leader of your team will be Brady Morningstar.  You better hope Self is smart enough to start him the entire season if so. 

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  KU is way out in front with McLemore, and Hopkins could commit to KU after his visit this weekend.  With a potential NBA lockout looming, KU would have another year out of Selby and Mc. Morris. 

As for this season, I definitely expect KU to be a top 10 team with Selby.  Mc. Morris led KU in scoring during conference play last season.  He and his brother Markieff just continue to improve each and every year.  They create matchup problems because of their ability to shoot from the perimeter.  Then you've got guys like Elijah Johnson (5-star #24 on Rivals) and Thomas Robinson (4-star #31 on Rivals) who didn't get much of a chance to show what they could do last year with as loaded as KU was, but they've got the potential to be stars.  Add experienced players like Taylor, Reed, Little, and Morningstar to that mix, and I'd say KU is quite a bit deeper and more talented than the Walker/Beasley K-State team that you are comparing them to.  Releford and Withey were both 4-star recruits with some big-time offers, and they're probably going to be buried on the bench. 

I just don't see ten teams that are hands down better than KU next year. 

Talent is only one part of the equation, as a KU fan you should know the importance that game experience plays.  A huge part of K-State's run last season was due to the experience our team had.  KU lacks game time experience.  The talent is there but the #1 question you guys will face this year is how quickly the team comes together on the floor.

I'll tell you one area where they do have a ton of experience, smoking chronic and raping.  If they had a top 25 for that I'd have them in my top three and serious contenders for Nat'l Championship.

[Dugout DickStone]

Has Tyshawn Taylor has his ass kicked on campus lately?

[jtksu]

More importantly-  has he been point plankin'?!

[EMAWzified]

WHY DO THE JAYHAWKS LIKE MARIJUANA SO MUCH!?

Like everything with sqwawk BB, it's all about tradition.

[catzacker]

Has Tyshawn Taylor has his ass kicked on campus lately?

[OregonSmock]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year. 

[Andy]

is there any program hurt more by the new recruiting rules and ncaa crackdowns?  its sad to see a good coach like self on the downside of his career.  should probably hang it up.

[_33]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year. 

Unbelievable how giddy KU fans are about this potential lockout. Why do they get so much enjoyment out of seeing the dreams of young men come crashing down around them? It's disturbing.

[OregonSmock]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year. 

Unbelievable how giddy KU fans are about this potential lockout. Why do they get so much enjoyment out of seeing the dreams of young men come crashing down around them? It's disturbing.

I didn't realize that staying in college for an extra year was a dream killer. 

[OregonSmock]

is there any program hurt more by the new recruiting rules and ncaa crackdowns?  its sad to see a good coach like self on the downside of his career.  should probably hang it up.

KU signed the #1 overall prospect in the country just last year and has a slew of top prospects visiting for Late Night. 

[Ira Hayes]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year. 

Except it wouldn't keep everyone on campus.  The CBA expires on June 30, 2011.  

[Andy]

is there any program hurt more by the new recruiting rules and ncaa crackdowns?  its sad to see a good coach like self on the downside of his career.  should probably hang it up.

KU signed the #1 overall prospect in the country just last year and has a slew of top prospects visiting for Late Night. 

seems like kans basketball should be far beyond hanging banners for visits and signing players who can't get cleared.

[WillieWatanabe]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year.  

Unbelievable how giddy KU fans are about this potential lockout. Why do they get so much enjoyment out of seeing the dreams of young men come crashing down around them? It's disturbing.

I didn't realize that staying in college for an extra year was a dream killer.  

from his quotes, it would be to him.

[OregonSmock]

is there any program hurt more by the new recruiting rules and ncaa crackdowns?  its sad to see a good coach like self on the downside of his career.  should probably hang it up.

KU signed the #1 overall prospect in the country just last year and has a slew of top prospects visiting for Late Night. 

seems like kans basketball should be far beyond hanging banners for visits and signing players who can't get cleared.

I just stated the facts.  Sorry if that brings out your inferiority complex.

[OregonSmock]

Also, take a look at K-State's 2011 recruiting class.  If Frank and co. keep it up, they're going to have a group of fighting 3-stars that only Doc Sadler could appreciate.

[WillieWatanabe]

Also, take a look at K-State's 2011 recruiting class.  If Frank and co. keep it up, they're going to have a group of fighting 3-stars that only Doc Sadler could appreciate.

i will remember this when Gipson is All Big 12.

[OregonSmock]

Also, take a look at K-State's 2011 recruiting class.  If Frank and co. keep it up, they're going to have a group of fighting 3-stars that only Doc Sadler could appreciate.

i will remember this when Gipson is All Big 12.

Those 6'7 power forwards are really hard to come by these days.

[_33]

My initial post was in reference to KU's team next season, which is why I added Hopkins and McLemore to the lineup.  

Then why do you have Selby on it?  I don't think Bill Self can even turn the number one player in the country into a multi year college player.

Do you even read my posts anymore before you reply?  I pointed out that there's a potential NBA lockout looming, which would keep everyone on campus for another year. 

Unbelievable how giddy KU fans are about this potential lockout. Why do they get so much enjoyment out of seeing the dreams of young men come crashing down around them? It's disturbing.

I didn't realize that staying in college for an extra year was a dream killer. 

Haven't you seen "Bill Self, you disgust me?"  It's never just one more year.

[pissclams]

Also, take a look at K-State's 2011 recruiting class.  If Frank and co. keep it up, they're going to have a group of fighting 3-stars that only Doc Sadler could appreciate.

i will remember this when Gipson is All Big 12.

Those 6'7 power forwards are really hard to come by these days.

julian wright was 6'6" when he left KU

[jtksu]

And Wright weighed like 200 lbs.