America under Surveillance . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

well if you thought those of who keep bringing up the reality of Surveillance Nation were nothing but a bunch of tinfoil hatters, think again.

Soon, all passengers boarding planes (after they go through the body scanner) will be checked against a "list" called "secure flight".   They're pulling trucks over on the highway and running them through scanners.   Portable scanners mounted on vehicles will roll, scanning all matter of vehicles, homes, people.   Passports now needed for Mexico and Canada. 

Almost every major road and intersection in the United States has cameras, more and more inner city areas have cameras on every corner.    Our own DHS produces videos on their bio metric crowd control trailers they roll into major events and run people through.   There's still talk of deploying surveillance blimps above the United States, the NSA still has "permission" use their spy satellites for domestic activities, supposedly "only" using them to assist law enforcement during major events.   We know the next generation of spy satellites will be so powerful they'll be able to recognize faces.    Facial recognition systems, retina recognition systems, thumb/finger scan will soon be the norm if they aren't already.   The custom made advertising for when you walk into the store and the system recognizes your face or your retinas . . . that's just over the horizon, and it isn't a Tom Cruise/Steven Spielberg movie.   

Facebook will advertise every where you go via your cell phone if you let it . . . and we already know about Go "you have no privacy" oggle . . . and how they are now practically  joined at the hip with the government.

The government believes that everything just an inch passed the threshold of your door is public property and they should be allowed to track and follow you with electronic devices and don't even need a warrant to do it . . . not to mention warrantless wire tapping . . . and the ability to deem anything a "counter terrorism operation" by simple decree, anything done on the auspices of a "counter terrorism operation" means that you can be deemed to have no rights of any kind and they can do anything they want to you.  (which is why the executive order on torture Obama signed just after coming into office is a giant ball of fluff). 

Yes, pretty much everything meant to stop "them" is really in place to control "us".   

Welcome to America boys and girls . . . Surveillance, Control Grid Nation. 

[sonofdaxjones]

A Swiss professor working with a Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientist who heads the Mind Machine Project there outlined how this program operates through computerized scanning of phone calls and electronic messages sent through e-mail and social networking mechanisms.

“Suppose you know there’s a threat to the president when he is visiting, say, Texas. Through information obtained by the National Security Agency, we have the tools to go through huge quantities of data obtained from that area,” said professor Mathieu Guidere of the University of Geneva.

How? “The computer system detects resentment in conversations through measurements in decibels and other voice biometrics,” he said. “It detects obsessiveness with the individual going back to the same topic over and over, measuring crescendos.”

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article201702.ece

Pre-Crime . . . here we come.

[OregonSmock]

Paranoid much, 'Pad?


 

[ew2x4]

I have a "Plan B" when Plan A's crap hits the fan. It involves a nice long mountain drive, and lots of 5.56 ammo.

[Pittcat]

I have a "Plan B" when Plan A's crap hits the fan. It involves a nice long mountain drive, and lots of 5.56 ammo.

Go with 7.62x39.  Plenty of punch, cheaper and no need for a double tap.

[mortons toe]

I have a "Plan B" when Plan A's feces hits the fan. It involves a nice long mountain drive, and lots of 5.56 ammo.

Go with 7.62x39.  Plenty of punch, cheaper and no need for a double tap.

or just have both...

[CHONGS]

[jtksu]

I like!   

[mortons toe]

kinda like the lib'tards during their "patriot act" whining?

[sys]

agree with dax.  also the liberals with their patriot act whining.  america is the least free country i've lived in.

[jtksu]

Sys is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Rage Against the McKee]

Google simply takes photos of what you would see if you drove down the street. Sure, there is some breach of privacy, but they produce a very useful service free of charge. The lack of privacy caused by facebook is nobody's fault but the people who choose to use facebook.

I will agree that the Patriot Act is ridiculous and shouldn't even need to be repealed because it is illegal.

[CHONGS]

[06wildcat]

Google simply takes photos of what you would see if you drove down the street. Sure, there is some breach of privacy, but they produce a very useful service free of charge. The lack of privacy caused by facebook is nobody's fault but the people who choose to use facebook.

I will agree that the Patriot Act is ridiculous and shouldn't even need to be repealed because it is illegal.

Legally there's no breach of privacy. Google has run into some issues with ending up on private roads and they took the images down. If you can be seen from a public location, it doesn't matter if you're on private property.

[Sugar Dick]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

[06wildcat]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

This is true, privacy is not explicitly in the constitution. Neither is anything on how government is supposed to conduct searches and seizures.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

You have a 4th amendment right that protects you from an unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act is in direct violation of this right.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Google simply takes photos of what you would see if you drove down the street. Sure, there is some breach of privacy, but they produce a very useful service free of charge. The lack of privacy caused by facebook is nobody's fault but the people who choose to use facebook.

I will agree that the Patriot Act is ridiculous and shouldn't even need to be repealed because it is illegal.

Legally there's no breach of privacy. Google has run into some issues with ending up on private roads and they took the images down. If you can be seen from a public location, it doesn't matter if you're on private property.

I'm not saying it's illegal, but I can understand why some people would get upset that google broadcasts images of their property on the internet.

[Sugar Dick]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

You have a 4th amendment right that protects you from an unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act is in direct violation of this right.

that's your opinion. notice the qualifier "unreasonable". also the part about defining search and seizure when your communications are streamed on telephone lines you don't own or via cellular signal through air not yours

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

You have a 4th amendment right that protects you from an unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act is in direct violation of this right.

that's your opinion. notice the qualifier "unreasonable". also the part about defining search and seizure when your communications are streamed on telephone lines you don't own or via cellular signal through air not yours

If the government had a reason to tap your phone, they could get a warrant and not need the Patriot Act. This seems like a "reasonable" way to define "unreasonable" to me. Also, if I have to pay a monthly phone bill, I damn sure want my conversations to be private.

[The42Yardstick]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

This is pretty much the worst argument against privacy ever, and it's thrown out ad nauseum every day. Congratulations Sugar Dick, you are part of the problem.

[Sugar Dick]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

You have a 4th amendment right that protects you from an unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act is in direct violation of this right.

that's your opinion. notice the qualifier "unreasonable". also the part about defining search and seizure when your communications are streamed on telephone lines you don't own or via cellular signal through air not yours

If the government had a reason to tap your phone, they could get a warrant and not need the Patriot Act. This seems like a "reasonable" way to define "unreasonable" to me. Also, if I have to pay a monthly phone bill, I damn sure want my conversations to be private.

then get nominated to the supreme court

It's not in "direct" violation of the 4th amendment until then.  


Also, you don't have to pay for the phone, so that argument fails.

[Sugar Dick]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

This is pretty much the worst argument against privacy ever, and it's thrown out ad nauseum every day. Congratulations Sugar Dick, you are part of the problem.

You're a moron 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't do anything illegal, I don't call the middle east, and I don't care if the government listens to my phone convos.  FYI privacy is not in the consittution (although its been read into it by liberal judges who don't know that we can amend the constitution)

If I were doing sh*t that was illegal, or if I were plotting to kill the president, I would give a s&it about this stuff. 
   <-- Me trying to commit a crime, but getting caught before I have a chance

Bring on the slippery slope arguments 

You have a 4th amendment right that protects you from an unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act is in direct violation of this right.

that's your opinion. notice the qualifier "unreasonable". also the part about defining search and seizure when your communications are streamed on telephone lines you don't own or via cellular signal through air not yours

If the government had a reason to tap your phone, they could get a warrant and not need the Patriot Act. This seems like a "reasonable" way to define "unreasonable" to me. Also, if I have to pay a monthly phone bill, I damn sure want my conversations to be private.

then get nominated to the supreme court

It's not in "direct" violation of the 4th amendment until then.  


Also, you don't have to pay for the phone, so that argument fails.

JFC, you would fit right in with the Nazi party.

Also, I paid for my phone, jackass. Do you also think that people who rent a home have no private property, so the government should be able to just show up for no reason and search the place?

[sonofdaxjones]

Always laugh at the "paranoid much" response.

Yet I could literally fill pages of articles from reputable sources discussing all of these issues.  

One of the big problem is, so many people drink the kool-aid they just accept it.

Saw a cool sticker in a wine and beer bar I was in downtown in my fair city.   "Tyranny is cobbled together through a series of seemingly benign acts and laws".

Just listened to the Science show on NPR . . . and they were discussing the Worm that is infecting industrial machines . . . very sophisticated and likely coming from a source either directly or indirectly associated with a government/intelligence agency given its actions and sophistication.   This will only serve up more cries for entities like the NSA being called in to "protect" both public and private networks . . . particularly private networks that run public services.   Protect us Big Brother.