Wildcat formation breakdown vs Iowa State

[felix rex]

Are you talking about the play where DT fell down? Because that's a dumb example for why the formation doesn't work.

[DoDRepeat]

Are you talking about the play where DT fell down? Because that's a dumb example for why the formation doesn't work.

I'm not saying the formation doesn't work. But I am saying it stalled our offense on saturday more often than it helped it.

[kso_FAN]

You obviously didn't "chart" the game good enough. Right before the 3rd and 15 big reverse by quarles, DT lost 7 or 8 yards out of wildcat. Not to mention after the first down (with momentum), we went wildcat two plays and gained 3 yards. Its a drive killer.

My mistake, we still averaged over 4 YPP out of the Wildcat.  The 7 yard loss you used though is a poor example of the Wildcat being ineffective b/c it was a poor snap as much as anything that caused the problem on that play.  And you are correct, we did run 2 more plays out of it for a 2 yard gain (lead) and then a 1 yard gain (option), but had Thomas pitched the ball we gain minimum 5 yards on that one.  So perhaps you could argue that we used it too much on the first drive.

But again, it does not make it a negative offense, especially when we mixed it in on the 2 TD drives and gained 9 and then 13 yards respectively out of it.  

[kso_FAN]

Are you talking about the play where DT fell down? Because that's a dumb example for why the formation doesn't work.

I'm not saying the formation doesn't work. But I am saying it stalled our offense on saturday more often than it helped it.

It stalled the offense on the first drive, but more so from poor execution than a poor play call.  You can't choose to ignore that we ran it effectively on all 3 TD drives after that.  Perhaps you could say it didn't work effectively on the final drive, but Snyder went conservative overall on that one in his other 2 play calls as well.

[DoDRepeat]

You obviously didn't "chart" the game good enough. Right before the 3rd and 15 big reverse by quarles, DT lost 7 or 8 yards out of wildcat. Not to mention after the first down (with momentum), we went wildcat two plays and gained 3 yards. Its a drive killer.

My mistake, we still averaged over 4 YPP out of the Wildcat.  The 7 yard loss you used though is a poor example of the Wildcat being ineffective b/c it was a poor snap as much as anything that caused the problem on that play.  And you are correct, we did run 2 more plays out of it for a 2 yard gain (lead) and then a 1 yard gain (option), but had Thomas pitched the ball we gain minimum 5 yards on that one.  So perhaps you could argue that we used it too much on the first drive.

But again, it does not make it a negative offense, especially when we mixed it in on the 2 TD drives and gained 9 and then 13 yards respectively out of it.  

I can agree with that. I just don't like stalled drives from going wildcat when our regular offense is driving through a pretty weak defense. Running it here and there I have no problem with.

[kso_FAN]

I can agree with that. I just don't like stalled drives from going wildcat when our regular offense is driving through a pretty weak defense. Running it here and there I have no problem with.

That's fair.

[mcmwcat]

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[WillieWatanabe]

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[nicname]

      bill s = 

would obviously have to set this gem up with a few speed options with DT and whoever was in the backfield with him.

[catzacker]

I can agree with that. I just don't like stalled drives from going wildcat when our regular offense is driving through a pretty weak defense. Running it here and there I have no problem with.

That's fair.

Actually, it's not.  Like Carson throwing a fracking pick 6 isn't a drive killer?  The regular offense is basically finding different ways to get Daniel Thomas the ball, mixed in with a few (misdirection, gadgety) plays to keep defenses honest, and get it out of that fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) qb's hands.  Stalled drives have nothing to do with the Wildcat.  If anything, the problem with the Wildcat is that we haven't done much/enough out of it.

[felix rex]

I can agree with that. I just don't like stalled drives from going wildcat when our regular offense is driving through a pretty weak defense. Running it here and there I have no problem with.

That's fair.

Actually, it's not.  Like Carson throwing a fracking pick 6 isn't a drive killer?  The regular offense is basically finding different ways to get Daniel Thomas the ball, mixed in with a few (misdirection, gadgety) plays to keep defenses honest, and get it out of that fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) qb's hands.  Stalled drives have nothing to do with the Wildcat.  If anything, the problem with the Wildcat is that we haven't done much/enough out of it.

Carson manages games! The only reason we haven't passed is because we haven't "needed" to! Every QB misses on long balls and throws INTs! Carson is constantly audibling us into the right play at the LOS! He runs the option super managey! 

[CHONGS]

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[Ira Hayes]

In my own little fantasy world...   

We'll be rolling out the wishbone for the Nebraska game with either Harper or Lamur at QB and Wilson, Powell, and Thomas in the backfield.