Today a Military Black Project . . . tomorrow in the hands of your

[sonofdaxjones]

local law enforcement agency.

Keep in mind when you read this that right now the FAA is inundated with applications for unmanned DOMESTIC surveillance drones from DOMESTIC law enforcement agencies.

Pre-Crime Software being developed by multiple entities, even being used now in some places . . . and you thought Minority Report was just a movie.

Not only is the proposed 2011 Military and War Budget the biggest in history, but the Black Project component (which gets very little oversight) is the largest in history.

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-08/anyone-anywhere-anytime

Like the article said, why does the U.S. military need to deploy a Stealth Drone in Afghanistan when Al-CIAda doesn't have any radar (that is until U.S. supply helicopters "accidentally" drop some radar systems off to them, because you know, they got "lost", just like they get "lost" dropping off conventional weapons that "accidentally" end up in the hands of Al-CIAda.)??   Because it's probably not even being flown around Afghanistan, it's likely flying into Iran.

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-08/anyone-anywhere-anytime

When are you Obamabots going to recognize that Barry isn't the least bit interested in the plight of the poor, or of minorities, or the middle class.  He's either interested in completely imploding the U.S. financial system with reckless spending, or more interested in U.S. global hegemony . . . or both.   

When Obama is out of office he should go into certain demographics and become a car salesman.   He'll get the useful idiots in the door and promise them a brand new BMW, and then the useful idiots will hand over all of their money and then happily drive off in a 1977 Chevy Vega.

To Barry Obama . . . perpetrator of one of the, if not THE biggest frauds in U.S. History.

[OregonSmock]

What's wrong with increasing our military presence in Afghanistan? 
 

[Dugout DickStone]

I'm with BMW.  I appreciate the fact that Obama is bombing the crap out of anyone that pisses the U.S. off.  I always thought Bush was kind of a puss.

[06wildcat]

Like the article said, why does the U.S. military need to deploy a Stealth Drone in Afghanistan when Al-CIAda doesn't have any radar (that is until U.S. supply helicopters "accidentally" drop some radar systems off to them, because you know, they got "lost", just like they get "lost" dropping off conventional weapons that "accidentally" end up in the hands of Al-CIAda.)??   Because it's probably not even being flown around Afghanistan, it's likely flying into Iran.

We lost a lot of crap in Afghanistan when we weren't there in the 1980s. One thing we would have never lost though were radar systems. I mean it's not like we lost any SAMs in the area or anything.

[pike]

Endless wars means huge money for the elite. Welcome to 'nam part II my friends. Why are we told that a bunch of losers in Afghanistan could coordinate the largest attack on US soil, ever? Especially when most hijackers were from our "Ally" Saudi Arabia. crap just doesn't add up. But the public turns their head as long as the anti-Muslim propoganda continues, as it has for well over a decade now.As long as Mooslims are getting bombed somewhere, 90 percent of the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) public couldn't care less about what's going on anywhere else. Sad

[Jeffy]

Wars are a good method for global redistribution of wealth.

[CHONGS]

Wars are a good method for global redistribution of wealth.

They are?

[sys]

sounds like dax wants to help kill all the cops.   

[sonofdaxjones]

What's wrong with increasing our military presence in Afghanistan? 
 

What's wrong . . . read the excerpts of Woodward's new book and get back to me??

Plus, you really have no clue when it some to geo-strategic issues.  You're just a happy little useful idiot who will gladly support whatever this administration tells you to support.

[sonofdaxjones]

Like the article said, why does the U.S. military need to deploy a Stealth Drone in Afghanistan when Al-CIAda doesn't have any radar (that is until U.S. supply helicopters "accidentally" drop some radar systems off to them, because you know, they got "lost", just like they get "lost" dropping off conventional weapons that "accidentally" end up in the hands of Al-CIAda.)??   Because it's probably not even being flown around Afghanistan, it's likely flying into Iran.

We lost a lot of crap in Afghanistan when we weren't there in the 1980s. One thing we would have never lost though were radar systems. I mean it's not like we lost any SAMs in the area or anything.

You're talking about 1980's technology that is fighting against 21st Century Technology.  If our standard counter measure systems on standard aircraft can't thwart vintage 1980's SAM technology, than we have literally wasted hundreds of billions of dollars in the last 2 decades.   A long range high altititude stealth drone is not needed to fight guys shooting AK-47's who might have some old Stinger missiles laying around. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Like the article said, why does the U.S. military need to deploy a Stealth Drone in Afghanistan when Al-CIAda doesn't have any radar (that is until U.S. supply helicopters "accidentally" drop some radar systems off to them, because you know, they got "lost", just like they get "lost" dropping off conventional weapons that "accidentally" end up in the hands of Al-CIAda.)??   Because it's probably not even being flown around Afghanistan, it's likely flying into Iran.

We lost a lot of feces in Afghanistan when we weren't there in the 1980s. One thing we would have never lost though were radar systems. I mean it's not like we lost any SAMs in the area or anything.

You're talking about 1980's technology that is fighting against 21st Century Technology.  If our standard counter measure systems on standard aircraft can't thwart vintage 1980's SAM technology, than we have literally wasted hundreds of billions of dollars in the last 2 decades.   A long range high altititude stealth drone is not needed to fight guys shooting AK-47's who might have some old Stinger missiles laying around. 

It seems to me that if we don't use the long range stealth drones to fight the guys with AK-47's and stinger missiles, that the hundreds of billions of dollars spent would be wasted. Just sayin'.

[sonofdaxjones]

That's not the point.

The point is . . . Afghanistan is not about fightin them Terra-ists.   Look at a map, then we'll discuss.

[Rage Against the McKee]

That's not the point.

The point is . . . Afghanistan is not about fightin them Terra-ists.   Look at a map, then we'll discuss.

I agree, but if we are going to fight, it seems stupid not to use our high-tech weaponry that we spent so much money obtaining.

[sonofdaxjones]

But long range multi-billion dollar stealth drones aren't there to fight the Taliban and AQ, they're there to spy on the Iranians and others.

[OregonSmock]

But long range multi-billion dollar stealth drones aren't there to fight the Taliban and AQ, they're there to spy on the Iranians and others.

What's wrong with spying on the Iranians? 
 

[Sugar Dick]

What's wrong with increasing our military presence in Afghanistan? 
 

Afghanistan didn't attack us 

[Dugout DickStone]

But long range multi-billion dollar stealth drones aren't there to fight the Taliban and AQ, they're there to spy on the Iranians and others.

What's wrong with spying on the Iranians? 
 

Seriously.  I'd rough ridin' hope to hell we are spying our asses off on the Iranians.  And the Chinese, Russians and North Koreans for good measure.

[OregonSmock]

What's wrong with increasing our military presence in Afghanistan? 
 

Afghanistan didn't attack us 

al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, and Afghanistan happened to have a ton of al Qaeda networks, along with Osama bin laden, the mastermind behind the whole operation.
 

[Sugar Dick]

What's wrong with increasing our military presence in Afghanistan? 
 

Afghanistan didn't attack us 

al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, and Afghanistan happened to have a ton of al Qaeda networks, along with Osama bin laden, the mastermind behind the whole operation.
 

all of al queda is muslim 

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL . . . you understand that this administration new stands behind the same old tired reasoning that the previous administration used for perpetual war right??  You understand that the Obamatards literally marched on Washington and stood on the corners of streets to protest against the policies of the previous administration correct . . . now the majority of the same people fully support the exact same policies. 

Nothing wrong with spying on Iran . . . just admit that we are in Afghanistan at least in part to encircle Iran, and to thwart Chinese and Russian influence over the region (Despite the fact that somehow we have managed to allow the Chinese to sell more Nuclear Reactors to Pakistan, and the Russians now have a Nuclear program with Kuwait.   Even you Obamatards can recognize the multiple levels of irony and hypocrisy behind all of that right??) . . . not entirely to smoke out Al-CIAda and the long dead OBL.

Again, you don't deploy multi-billion dollar, long range high altitude stealth drones to an operational theatre like Afghanistan.   Not when you have at least 3 or 4 other less expense drones that can do the exact same things and then some.   In essence Afghanistan is not only forward base on the "war on terra" but also a forward base to support the exact same types of clandestine operations and strategic intimidation tactics that the Obamatards all whined, bitched and moand about during the previous administration.

Thus, Just say NO to war and U.S. global hegemony . . . Unless a Democrat is President.

[OregonSmock]

LOL . . . you understand that this administration new stands behind the same old tired reasoning that the previous administration used for perpetual war right??  You understand that the Obamatards literally marched on Washington and stood on the corners of streets to protest against the policies of the previous administration correct . . . now the majority of the same people fully support the exact same policies. 

Nothing wrong with spying on Iran . . . just admit that we are in Afghanistan at least in part to encircle Iran, and to thwart Chinese and Russian influence over the region (Despite the fact that somehow we have managed to allow the Chinese to sell more Nuclear Reactors to Pakistan, and the Russians now have a Nuclear program with Kuwait.   Even you Obamatards can recognize the multiple levels of irony and hypocrisy behind all of that right??) . . . not entirely to smoke out Al-CIAda and the long dead OBL.

Again, you don't deploy multi-billion dollar, long range high altitude stealth drones to an operational theatre like Afghanistan.   Not when you have at least 3 or 4 other less expense drones that can do the exact same things and then some.   In essence Afghanistan is not only forward base on the "war on terra" but also a forward base to support the exact same types of clandestine operations and strategic intimidation tactics that the Obamatards all whined, bitched and moand about during the previous administration.

Thus, Just say NO to war and U.S. global hegemony . . . Unless a Democrat is President.

You do know that President Obama is reducing the military presence in Iraq to about 10,000 troops, right?
 

[sonofdaxjones]

While leaving behind hundreds of U.S. bases and thousands of troops in addition the State Department is currently cobbling together their own private army of 1000's, that will include the acqusition of Blackhawk Helicoptors, armed Humvee's and a whole litany of weapons. 

Ben, we're talking about the same government that said they were withdrawing from the cities by simply redrawing the lines of the city boundaries.

Even today more troops are deploying to Iraq, and they are still getting the combat kicker in pay.

[OregonSmock]

Even John McCain was supportive of President Obama's plan to reduce the number of troops in Iraq. 
 

[sonofdaxjones]

Even John McCain was supportive of President Obama's plan to reduce the number of troops in Iraq. 
 

Who give a f_ck about John McCain??  I sure don't.

[Jeffy]

Wars are a good method for global redistribution of wealth.

They are?

Just think of all the American dollars we threw into Europe during the Marshall Plan. 

Iraq has received billions in rebuilding infrastructure aid.

So, while us right wing nutjobs just love to see the bad guys get blown up, the liberal wieners love rebuilding.