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Well he'll never get Temple in the BCS Championship game now!

Dax, it ooks like you better undig those envelopes and place an order from www.clownsuit.com

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Whitlock thinks it's horrible

compared him to Gill :lol:

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Well he'll never get Temple in the BCS Championship game now!

Dax, it ooks like you better undig those envelopes and place an order from www.clownsuit.com

Dax, order a santa-ish clown suit and use a pic of yourself in it for your christmas cards!

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:bawl:

I won't copy and paste the tweets from various media members clowning Golden and this hire.  They probably don't know the MAC anyway.

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I won't copy and paste the tweets from various media members clowning Golden and this hire.  They probably don't know the MAC anyway.

What difference does a few comments from the media make?

Are you suggesting the media are always right? Or right most of the time?

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:bawl:

I won't copy and paste the tweets from various media members clowning Golden and this hire.  They probably don't know the MAC anyway.

What difference does a few comments from the media make?

Are you suggesting the media are always right? Or right most of the time?

Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

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I really don't think Miami is a very attractive coaching job.  Golden might of been the best they could hope for.  Then again, if Malzahn is really going to Vandy, they probably could've gotten him

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.


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I'm pulling hard for Kirby to do well with this hire.  You never know when a former EMAW is going to help us out.  The more EMAWs in power the better.

e.g.

1. Guthridge throwing us Mike Evans.
2. DeLoss saving us from mid-majordom.

I'm sure there are more.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



Miami needed to make an instant splash with this hire to keep that awful fan base interested.  They went with a SLTH.  As much as I hated the idea of Golden at k-state, he would have been a better fit here than there.  I don't like Leach either but he is a better fit there than here.  I think almost anyone they hired would have been better for what Miami needs right now.  Malzhan would have been better, hell RP woud have been better for injecting the instant energy and buzz they need.  He's going to need to win quickly.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

You seriously think Harbaugh, Gundy or Whittingham would even consider Miami?

If so, you might be more delusional than even Miami.

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 :lol: at you all . . . particularly chin who didn't cover this eventuality in his "bet" . . .  again :lol: at you all. 


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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

You seriously think Harbaugh, Gundy or Whittingham would even consider Miami?

If so, you might be more delusional than even Miami.

Please explain how Stanford, Utah, and Oklahoma State are better situations than Miami.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

You seriously think Harbaugh, Gundy or Whittingham would even consider Miami?

If so, you might be more delusional than even Miami.

Please explain how Stanford, Utah, and Oklahoma State are better situations than Miami.

I'll jump to j_rake's side here.  They all have MUCH better facilities, more money, and better alumni/fan bases.  All Miami has is a name and a recruiting base.  However, they are way behind U of F and FSU, and quickly dropping to UCF and USF territory.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

You seriously think Harbaugh, Gundy or Whittingham would even consider Miami?

If so, you might be more delusional than even Miami.

Please explain how Stanford, Utah, and Oklahoma State are better situations than Miami.

With Harbaugh, it's not about where he's at, but where he can end up. There's a good chance that Rich Rod could be fired at season's end, and if he stays in 2011 and turns in another stinker, he's gone. Michigan is a better job than Miami.

Whittingham has done an amazing job at Utah. The excitement of competing with the big boys in the Pac-10 will keep him interested for a while, at least until a top 10 school (no longer Miami) ponies up the cash to bring him in.

Gundy has a great gig at Oklahoma State and an oil tycoon giving him everything he wants. At Miami, he'd likely take a paycut since they are poor, and they surely wouldn't give him anything in the way of job security once he arrived.

The other problem is this: Randy Shannon, for as much as he sucked on the field, did raise the bar at Miami in terms of player conduct and academics. There have been very few, if any, player arrests at Miami over the last few years. Shannon got rid of the thugs, and the Canes have never been better in the classroom. While the hardcore fans embrace the thugs and want Miami to win at all costs, the administration has made it clear that they are perfectly happy with 8 or 9 wins and a team that's competing for ACC championships.

Problem is, winning 8 or 9 games at Miami isn't as easy as it once looked.

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Just that your opinion isn't as right as you think it is.  Golden may turn out to be fantastic but his hire is high risk.

Of the coaches Miami could have hired, please tell me which one would be "no risk."

I'd give you Mike Leach, but who knows if either side had genuine interest.



There is no such thing as a "no risk" hire. Miami could have gotten several coaches with less risk than Golden. Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Whittingham all would have better odds for success at Miami.

You seriously think Harbaugh, Gundy or Whittingham would even consider Miami?

If so, you might be more delusional than even Miami.

Please explain how Stanford, Utah, and Oklahoma State are better situations than Miami.

With Harbaugh, it's not about where he's at, but where he can end up. There's a good chance that Rich Rod could be fired at season's end, and if he stays in 2011 and turns in another stinker, he's gone. Michigan is a better job than Miami. I agree that Harbaugh is holding out for Michigan, but Miami could have waited to see if Rich Rod was fired before hiring Golden.

Whittingham has done an amazing job at Utah. The excitement of competing with the big boys in the Pac-10 will keep him interested for a while, at least until a top 10 school (no longer Miami) ponies up the cash to bring him in. Whittingham is winning despite being at Utah, not because of it. Why would he not jump to Miami? It's not like it would be harder for him to leave Miami for a top 10 job than it would be to leave Utah.

Gundy has a great gig at Oklahoma State and an oil tycoon giving him everything he wants. At Miami, he'd likely take a paycut since they are poor, and they surely wouldn't give him anything in the way of job security once he arrived. If there is anything that Gundy does not have, it's job security. He was on the hot seat before this season started because OSU was expected to be bad. Most coaches actually have to turn in a poor performance before the seat gets hot.

The other problem is this: Randy Shannon, for as much as he sucked on the field, did raise the bar at Miami in terms of player conduct and academics. There have been very few, if any, player arrests at Miami over the last few years. Shannon got rid of the thugs, and the Canes have never been better in the classroom. While the hardcore fans embrace the thugs and want Miami to win at all costs, the administration has made it clear that they are perfectly happy with 8 or 9 wins and a team that's competing for ACC championships.

Problem is, winning 8 or 9 games at Miami isn't as easy as it once looked.


I never said that winning is easy at Miami. I do believe it is easier there than it is at Stanford, OSU, and Utah, though.

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Miami should have hired RichRod.

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Why would Miami wait to hire Harbaugh when Golden, their top choice, was already available?  :dunno:


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I'll jump to j_rake's side here.  They all have MUCH better facilities, more money, and better alumni/fan bases.  All Miami has is a name and a recruiting base.  However, they are way behind U of F and FSU, and quickly dropping to UCF and USF territory.

Well Golden seems like a likely candidate to take them to that territory. Miami really needed to hire a proven coach.

Miami should have hired RichRod.

He would be a home run hire at just about any school.

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Miami needed Golden more than Golden needed Miami.

Golden had the Penn State job on lock down. He just didn't want to wait another 10 years to get it.  :lol:

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This guy knows binders:

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Sitting on Kirby Hocutt's desk in his University of Miami office is a 300-page, four-pound binder with the title Deserve Victory.

The tome's author? Al Golden, who was introduced Monday evening as the Hurricanes' new football coach.

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