Used Car Salesmen, pt deux

[Dirty Sanchez]

This one tops the other one. Un-freaking-believable.

So I go into the dealer (another big KC dealer with a used car lot onsite) Monday to look at a car I saw online.  Unsolicited, the used car sales manager--seems like a good guy with good product knowledge, unlike the other place--gives me a price well below sticker.  I kinda thought it was a gimmick that it happened, but whatever, the new price was below our target range, so that's cool.  Got a mechanic to look at it and someone had jacked with the electrical system to put in a custom stereo.  Was pretty leery of that, so we passed on it Tuesday afternoon. 

Then we gave him what our price range was on something similar and he had one that was newer, safer, and had many less miles.  It was stickered above our price range but he offered it to us at $10,200, which worked for us.  We test drove it overnight and it checked out with the mechanic with only minor problems.  Filled out the paperwork tonight to verify we were who we said who we were so we could cut the check.  Well, the used car manager wasn't there tonight, so the new car manager came in and told us that he couldn't sell it at that price because it was below what it cost them plus their fixes. The other manager had missed something when he quoted us the price. Said we could have it for $11,700, then $11,200.  No way in hell was I going to pay a dime more than what was offered by their own guy.  Wish I had gotten that $10,200 in writing--I could consider going to the AG then.  The new manager offered to let us test drive an Isuzu Rodeo that was older with more miles that was in our range.  Never mind that those things are shitty. 

We had gone in with the intent to buy and now they were jacking us around.  Needless to say I was pissed.  My wife was in tears.  We're tired of spending every evening shopping and borrowing her mom's car.  I'm going to have a chat with the GM tomorrow.  Doubt it will do any good.  Will make sure to let everyone I know about this raw deal if it doesn't, including the Better Business Bureau and any reviews I can find online.

I understand that they need to make a profit, but their sales manager made the offer.  Sometimes for good service, you have to man up and make good on your promises.  rough ridin' assholes.

[michigancat]

craigslist

[Dirty Sanchez]

craigslist

Trying that, too.

[pissclams]

why not just add this to the first thread?

also,

[steve dave]

You know what doesn't put the wife in tears?  A shiny new car.   

[yoga-like_abana]

Sounds like you should have taken advantage of Obamas awesome car deal last year.

[pissclams]

Sounds like you should have taken advantage of Obamas awesome car deal last year.

[Saulbadguy]

why not just add this to the first thread?

also,

TWIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[CHONGS]

Did you mention you would pay in gold and/or possibly pelts?

[CNS]

Which dealer?

[ben ji]

wife sounds like a fp

[dmartin]

sounds like the wife needs to show a bit more cleavage. 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Which dealer?

This was JACK MILLER KIA in N KC, MO.

The one from the first thread was a used car lot attached to SHAWNEE MISSION HYUNDAI/KIA.

I have filed a complaint about jack miller with the Better Business Bureau.  It probably won't do any good, but it will at least give them a black eye.

We finally picked up a vehicle tonight and got this ordeal over with.  Actually dealt with a customer oriented dealer in Leavenworth. Small business rather than a just-another-sucker-walking-in-the-door type of place.  Picked up a sweet ride.  Paid cash 100%.  How are the rest of your interest payments coming?

[Jeffy]

[Dirty Sanchez]

Looks almost exactly like that, except smaller.

[06wildcat]

Which dealer?

This was JACK MILLER KIA in N KC, MO.

The one from the first thread was a used car lot attached to SHAWNEE MISSION HYUNDAI/KIA.

I have filed a complaint about jack miller with the Better Business Bureau.  It probably won't do any good, but it will at least give them a black eye.

We finally picked up a vehicle tonight and got this ordeal over with.  Actually dealt with a customer oriented dealer in Leavenworth. Small business rather than a just-another-sucker-walking-in-the-door type of place.  Picked up a sweet ride.  Paid cash 100%.  How are the rest of your interest payments coming?

Paid my car off in June, the 0 percent interest was killer though. Still have about 30K of warranty left on it too.

[steve dave]

I have three payments left on my sled with a lot of mileage left on the warranty.   

[Jeffy]

Cheaper insurance.... much slower depreciation.... lower taxes.

[CHONGS]

You would have got it cheaper if you payed in gold.  You're a fool.

[Dugout DickStone]

I feel bad for you losers who aren't business partners with car manufacturers.

[steve dave]

I feel bad for you losers who aren't business partners with car manufacturers.

THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!

[06wildcat]

Cheaper insurance.... much slower depreciation.... lower taxes.

LOL at worrying about depreciation, buy new, take care of it and drive the rough rider into the ground. My time is much more valuable to me than hunting all over trying to find a used car that isn't going to be a piece of crap than worrying about the marginally higher insurance and taxes.

I traded in my 9-year-old vehicle three years ago, got $6k out of the $20k I bought it new for and got a really sweet deal on the 07 with 5 miles on it because it was sitting right next to an 08 with the same sticker price. Difference between taxes was about $50. Difference in insurance was $100/year. Value of the 6-year, 60,000 mile warranty is around $1,800. I totally got screwed.

[Jeffy]

Cheaper insurance.... much slower depreciation.... lower taxes.

LOL at worrying about depreciation, buy new, take care of it and drive the rough rider into the ground. My time is much more valuable to me than hunting all over trying to find a used car that isn't going to be a piece of crap than worrying about the marginally higher insurance and taxes.

I traded in my 9-year-old vehicle three years ago, got $6k out of the $20k I bought it new for and got a really sweet deal on the 07 with 5 miles on it because it was sitting right next to an 08 with the same sticker price. Difference between taxes was about $50. Difference in insurance was $100/year. Value of the 6-year, 60,000 mile warranty is around $1,800. I totally got screwed.

And if you keep making car payments to yourself once you've paid it off, you'll be able to buy another new car in cash.

[Jeffy]

You would have got it cheaper if you payed in gold.  You're a fool.

The only precious metal I own is lead.

[steve dave]

Cheaper insurance.... much slower depreciation.... lower taxes.

LOL at worrying about depreciation, buy new, take care of it and drive the rough rider into the ground. My time is much more valuable to me than hunting all over trying to find a used car that isn't going to be a piece of crap than worrying about the marginally higher insurance and taxes.

I traded in my 9-year-old vehicle three years ago, got $6k out of the $20k I bought it new for and got a really sweet deal on the 07 with 5 miles on it because it was sitting right next to an 08 with the same sticker price. Difference between taxes was about $50. Difference in insurance was $100/year. Value of the 6-year, 60,000 mile warranty is around $1,800. I totally got screwed.

And if you keep making car payments to yourself once you've paid it off, you'll be able to buy another new car in cash.

Or, you could look at money as money and not have to split out all your funds to play mind games with yourself or whatever