Dominique Davis - ECU QB (Ft. Scott Community College)

[wabash909]

Garrett and 3 other dudes are from FSCC.

Correct. That's how we stumbled upon this Davis during the recruiting season last year. No one could figure out why we didn't go after him until someone suggested that he was just a product of his teammates being too dominant...which is obviously insane.

I got a chance to watch him play twice last season, once in the Jayhawk conference championship game against Butler, and once in the national championship game vs. Blinn.

I'm glad to see the kid is having some success at the DI-A level, but I was unimpressed with him both outings and thought our coaches made the rigth decision in not offering him. He had the size of a prototypical college QB and moved pretty well but lacked vision, was inaccurate, and did little to make me think he would succeed at this level.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and looking at what we got and how he did in his first game, it's easy to say we should've offered, but, at the time, there was no reason to think he would be successful at as a BCS starting QB.

Yeah, my all time favorite tard talking point from last season post-rationalizing Snyder's QB recruiting failure was that Cameron Newton was the ONLY juco quarterback on the planet worthy of a scholarship offer.  Still love it.  Cam Newton or bust, because everyone else is worthless - more worthless than three quarterbacks currently on the roster that wouldn't start for Washburn.




 

[sonofdaxjones]

Garrett and 3 other dudes are from FSCC.

Correct. That's how we stumbled upon this Davis during the recruiting season last year. No one could figure out why we didn't go after him until someone suggested that he was just a product of his teammates being too dominant...which is obviously insane.

I got a chance to watch him play twice last season, once in the Jayhawk conference championship game against Butler, and once in the national championship game vs. Blinn.

I'm glad to see the kid is having some success at the DI-A level, but I was unimpressed with him both outings and thought our coaches made the rigth decision in not offering him. He had the size of a prototypical college QB and moved pretty well but lacked vision, was inaccurate, and did little to make me think he would succeed at this level.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and looking at what we got and how he did in his first game, it's easy to say we should've offered, but, at the time, there was no reason to think he would be successful at as a BCS starting QB.

You can say the same thing about just about any JC QB.   But lets think about this for a second.  We are willing to bring in a kid who didn't even start for his junior college and ultimately give him a scholarship because golly look at what he did on that scout team . . . but we won't even offer a kid like Davis when we are in dire need of QB depth??   That's just fascinating.   

[Special_k]

Yeah, my all time favorite tard talking point from last season post-rationalizing Snyder's QB recruiting failure was that Cameron Newton was the ONLY juco quarterback on the planet worthy of a scholarship offer.  Still love it.  Cam Newton or bust, because everyone else is worthless - more worthless than three quarterbacks currently on the roster that wouldn't start for Washburn.

And if you had seen Davis play, you would be saying he wouldn't start for Washburn either. There were other QBs in last year's JUCO class I was hoping our coaches would make a stronger push for in addition to Newton, and Davis wasn't one of them.

Like I said, the kid had size and average speed for a dual-threat and that was about it. There's a reason why ECU was his only offer, and if they took a chance on him and it pays off, props to them to taking a roll of the dice and succeeding.

[jtksu]

It's hard to gauge some of these juco kids in KS.  There are quite a few that have absolutely no intention of spending anymore time in KS that absolutely necessary.  I'm sure we looked at him and for whatever reason, we decided not to offer.  It's not like we're the only team in the country that passed on this kid.

[wabash909]

Yeah, my all time favorite tard talking point from last season post-rationalizing Snyder's QB recruiting failure was that Cameron Newton was the ONLY juco quarterback on the planet worthy of a scholarship offer.  Still love it.  Cam Newton or bust, because everyone else is worthless - more worthless than three quarterbacks currently on the roster that wouldn't start for Washburn.

And if you had seen Davis play, you would be saying he wouldn't start for Washburn either. There were other QBs in last year's JUCO class I was hoping our coaches would make a stronger push for in addition to Newton, and Davis wasn't one of them.

Like I said, the kid had size and average speed for a dual-threat and that was about it. There's a reason why ECU was his only offer, and if they took a chance on him and it pays off, props to them to taking a roll of the dice and succeeding.

Obviously, ECU saw something. 

Stop acting like you're a better evaluator of talent than a coach at a BCS football program.

[sonofdaxjones]

In fact . . . ECU wanted the kid so bad that new staff flew out to Kansas to convince him to stick with ECU.  In addition, he originally signed with Boston College and then transferred.   Which makes me wonder if Steve Logan didn't tell the ECU staff about this kid.

Let's see, who do I want to give the lean towards??  jt or the Boston College and ECU coaching staff.  Particularly if Steve Logan was in anyway involved with this. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Holy $hit . . . now it even gets worse.  I had no idea on the back story on this kid.   He started 3 F'ing games at BC as a Redshirt Freshman with Steve Logan as the QB coach.

So we had a guy at Ft. Scott, he started 3 games at BC, only left because of academic issues, even though he could have, he didn't sign with ECU in Feb. because of Holtz leaving . . . and K-State never even offered.

 

[Special_k]

Holy $hit . . . now it even gets worse.  I had no idea on the back story on this kid.   He started 3 F'ing games at BC as a Redshirt Freshman with Steve Logan as the QB coach.

So we had a guy at Ft. Scott, he started 3 games at BC, only left because of academic issues, even though he could have, he didn't sign with ECU in Feb. because of Holtz leaving . . . and K-State never even offered.

 

...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?

[hemmy]

WRSOAT man, it takes hard work to get that name.

[wabash909]

...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?

Right, and how many other BCS programs don't have a single legitimate D-1 QB on their roster?  Just name a couple.

Are you seriously going to tell me that you think Dominique Davis is a worse option that Carson fracking Coffman?

[Special_k]

...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?

Right, and how many other BCS programs don't have a single legitimate D-1 QB on their roster?  Just name a couple.

Are you seriously going to tell me that you think Dominique Davis is a worse option that Carson fracking Coffman?

Have you even seen Davis play? I have, and there were better options out there than him. Look at his numbers and at least do some research on the guy before you go touting him as the the savior of the K-State QB position.

Coffman could have been unseated by MANY JUCO QBs in the last year's class, so by your logic we should have offered every single one of them?!? Comical

[wabash909]

...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?

Right, and how many other BCS programs don't have a single legitimate D-1 QB on their roster?  Just name a couple.

Are you seriously going to tell me that you think Dominique Davis is a worse option that Carson fracking Coffman?

Have you even seen Davis play? I have, and there were better options out there than him. Look at his numbers and at least do some research on the guy before you go touting him as the the savior of the K-State QB position.

Coffman could have been unseated by MANY JUCO QBs in the last year's class, so by your logic we should have offered every single one of them?!? Comical

Yes.  We should have offered every single JUCO qb in the country that was better than Coffman and signed one of them.

Davis.  Not good enough for Special K, but good enough for Boston College and ECU.  You're right. 

[jtksu]

Dax and Wabash-  smarter and better judges of talent than 118 D1 coaching staffs, including the HOF LHC Bill Snyder.  Jezzuz, dudes why are you wasting your time on this board?  You should be like co-presidents of the freaking NCAA!!

[jtksu]

You know who is an incredible judge of talent?  Ron Prince.  Dude was the only coach in the country who wanted DT to play RB, everyone else thought he was a safety!!

[wabash909]

Dax and Wabash-  smarter and better judges of talent than 118 D1 coaching staffs, including the HOF LHC Bill Snyder.  Jezzuz, dudes why are you wasting your time on this board?  You should be like co-presidents of the freaking NCAA!!

Wow. 

 :powerespect:

[jtksu]

If only you had been on some coaching staff somewhere, you could have said:  "Hey, Mr Head Coach, I realize I have absolutely no coaching experience whatsoever but I spend a lot of time on the internet and I believe this qb from Ft Scott CC is worthy of a scolarship!"  "Is that so, Mr Assistant Coach, cause I had no freaking idea this kid even existed and was not planning on offering him crap because I am stupid and smell like poop."  Wabash, you could have altered the course of history!!

[Special_k]

Yes.  We should have offered every single JUCO qb in the country that was better than Coffman and signed one of them.

Davis.  Not good enough for Special K, but good enough for Boston College and ECU.  You're right. 

Seriously man, you should just stop now. You act like Boston College and ECU are powerhouse programs. It's not like USC or Miami offered this kid and we completely blew him off. He was not a talent in the juco ranks, and anybody that follows KS Jayhawk conference juco football or knew anything about him would agree.

[wabash909]

If only you had been on some coaching staff somewhere, you could have said:  "Hey, Mr Head Coach, I realize I have absolutely no coaching experience whatsoever but I spend a lot of time on the internet and I believe this qb from Ft Scott CC is worthy of a scolarship!"  "Is that so, Mr Assistant Coach, cause I had no freaking idea this kid even existed and was not planning on offering him feces because I am stupid and smell like poop."  Wabash, you could have altered the course of history!!

 

Embarrassing.







 

[wabash909]

Yes.  We should have offered every single JUCO qb in the country that was better than Coffman and signed one of them.

Davis.  Not good enough for Special K, but good enough for Boston College and ECU.  You're right. 

Seriously man, you should just stop now. You act like Boston College and ECU are powerhouse programs. It's not like USC or Miami offered this kid and we completely blew him off. He was not a talent in the juco ranks, and anybody that follows KS Jayhawk conference juco football or knew anything about him would agree.

Stick with the "I saw him play one time and I thought he sucked" bit.

[jtksu]

Wabash-  How many times did you watch him play? 

[sonofdaxjones]

K-State didn't even offer, and he had 5 D1 offers coming out of high school.   Please go be a dumbass somewhere else.

[jtksu]

How many out of juco? 

[jtksu]

Dude was a 2* out of high school with 1 BCS offer, the school that signed him.  Exactly the type of player Dax would bitch like crazy if KSU offered.

[sonofdaxjones]

What does that matter??  We didn't even offer . . . you're actually going to sit there and try and argue that the kid isn't a capable D1 QB when he's now thrown for over 1000 yards and 10 TD's in Four (yes FOUR) D1 starts??  We . . . didn't . . . even . . . offer . . . and instead we start Carsy Coffman, with Klein and Sammy "Didn't even hardly play at my Juco" Lameur as the backups.  

You're pathetic.

[sonofdaxjones]

Dude was a 2* out of high school with 1 BCS offer, the school that signed him.  Exactly the type of player Dax would bitch like crazy if KSU offered.

When I know we aren't even going to get ANY of the guys we were supposedly after last year . . . plus on the old board, I talked about how we didn't even offer the kid and how F_cking dumb that was in light of the FACT we weren't going to get ANY of the guys we were after.