KU point guards bomb in front of NBA scouts

[sys]

my point was muddled by too many words....

oh.  i forgot jones even got mentioned.

[KSUTOMMY]

Josh Selby  6'3 PG Kansas Fr. -- He's a talent, but he's still incredibly wild and makes tons of mistakes when asked to run the team. His shooting was decent but shot selection needs improvement. He makes things difficult on himself taking a lot of contested shots falling away. When he stays under control and uses good ball fakes, he's very difficult to contain. An elite level athlete, he had a number of plays where he showed his great potential, but he's got a ways to go. When Jrue Holiday played on day 2 and guarded Selby, he completely shut him down. Selby is a talent and college should be a great experience for him to mature both socially and as a point guard. Hopefully he's not in a huge rush to turn pro because Bill "My Players Underachieve in the League" Self is my coach. If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard. Otherwise, he may end up falling short of his full abilities. He does have the uncertainty of his eligibility looming over him and it was likely on his mind and could have affected his performance some.

Tyshawn Taylor  6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2010-adidas-nations-recap

[Dugout DickStone]

Selby hasn't even played a game at ku and he went from 1 and done to a 3 year guy.  Nice Bill.

[jtksu]

Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.

[Lynchmobrules]

what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby?

 

Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.

Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season.  How many players did Frank have drafted?  TIA. 

UNI.   

ku went 33-3, won the Big 12, was ranked #1 for the majority of the year, and swept K-State and Mizzou.





 

BMW thanks you for taking care of that before he had to get on here and do that.  Awfully nice of you to do that for him.

[jtksu]

Does KU get a banner for all that stuff or seperate banners for each accomplishment?

[OregonSmock]

Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.

You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus.  God bless powerespect nation.  Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

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Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.

You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus.  God bless powerespect nation.  Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

I thought he came back to win another championship? 

 

[steve dave]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

[Pete]

You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season...

Ya, I am guilty of this.  Mistakes were made during my evaluation process.

[OregonSmock]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[sonofdaxjones]

What was his degree again . . . like construction paper science or something??

I just remember laughing when I saw his and Tebow's major on the Academic All-American list . . . next to guys majoring in Finance, Economics, Engineering and Physics.

[steve dave]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.  

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done.  His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree.  He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so.  There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment.  The opportunity cost was off the charts.  Weren't you an Econ major?

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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.  

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Nobody's saying he's more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than his deadbeat family.

[sonofdaxjones]

I am observing an immense amount of anger and lashing out of late from the Tardville contingent on various K-State forums. 

[OregonSmock]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.  

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done.  His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree.  He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so.  There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment.  The opportunity cost was off the charts.  Weren't you an Econ major?

Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about.  You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once.  Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree.  Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.  

[steve dave]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.  

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done.  His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree.  He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so.  There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment.  The opportunity cost was off the charts.  Weren't you an Econ major?

Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about.  You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once.  Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree.  Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.  

A) He still would have been the first 10 years later when he went back for his degree if he decided he wanted it
B) He would have gone much higher in the draft had he left the year before.  NBA ready or not he cost himself not just an entire season of playing time but a lot of annual salary out of the gates
C) Anyone who says "I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on" anything is wrong

Just an awful decision every way you look at it.  

[OregonSmock]

Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.  

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done.  His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree.  He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so.  There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment.  The opportunity cost was off the charts.  Weren't you an Econ major?

Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about.  You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once.  Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree.  Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.  

A) He still would have been the first 10 years later when he went back for his degree if he decided he wanted it
B) He would have gone much higher in the draft had he left the year before.  NBA ready or not he cost himself not just an entire season of playing time but a lot of annual salary out of the gates
C) Anyone who says "I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on" anything is wrong

Just an ignorant decision every way you look at it. 
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A) Going back 10 years later isn't the same.

B) Aldrich might have been drafted a few spots higher the year before, but he was still a lottery pick (#11 overall).

C) Put a monetary value on the extinction of wolves. 

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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree.  I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Being the smartest Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) in your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) family doesn't make you a fracking Rhode Scholar.

[steve dave]

C) Put a monetary value on the extinction of wolves. 

$740,000

[Pete]

I think we can put this to bed by agreeing on the following.

- Cole was better than we thought he would be

- Cole made a bad decision by coming back last year


Mods, lock this sucker up please.

[jtksu]

Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.

You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus.  God bless powerespect nation.  Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree. 

I was referring to Selby, who I believe was the top rated high school player in the nation.

If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard.

Who was the last guy rated #1 that didn't go lottery after his freshman year?

[pissclams]

was in lawrence yesterday, no sign of selby..  perhaps he decided to forgo his time @ KU?

[jtksu]

was in lawrence yesterday, no sign of selby..  perhaps he decided to forgo his time @ KU?

Maybe he's still at David Busters?

[sys]

i liked aldrich his freshmen year.


was pretty far off on pullen, never thought he'd be near as good as he became.