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KU point guards bomb in front of NBA scouts
« on: August 15, 2010, 12:14:12 PM »
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Josh Selby  6'3 PG Kansas Fr. -- He's a talent, but he's still incredibly wild and makes tons of mistakes when asked to run the team. His shooting was decent but shot selection needs improvement. He makes things difficult on himself taking a lot of contested shots falling away. When he stays under control and uses good ball fakes, he's very difficult to contain. An elite level athlete, he had a number of plays where he showed his great potential, but he's got a ways to go. When Jrue Holiday played on day 2 and guarded Selby, he completely shut him down. Selby is a talent and college should be a great experience for him to mature both socially and as a point guard. Hopefully he's not in a huge rush to turn pro because point guard is the position which requires the most development. If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard. Otherwise, he may end up falling short of his full abilities. He does have the uncertainty of his eligibility looming over him and it was likely on his mind and could have affected his performance some.

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Tyshawn Taylor  6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.

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Re: KU point guards bomb in front of NBA scouts
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 12:28:37 PM »
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Perry Jones 6'10 Baylor Fr. -- Easily the most talented NCAA player and improved as the event went on. Struggled the first day in creating baskets and settled for finding teammates. His abilities for a 6-10 kid are obscene as he's got handle and passing ability plus great foot speed to take players off the dribble. As the event went on he got more comfortable and began to take over, putting up 19 points on the final day. He had some jaw dropping dunks and looked very comfortable with the ball in his hands. Inconsistency was his major problem in high school so showing that he can play to his abilities on a consistent basis needs to be his focus this year. If anyone has a chance to grab the #1 pick away from Harrison Barnes, it's Perry Jones.


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Re: KU point guards bomb in front of NBA scouts
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 12:29:18 PM »
taylor is what he is.  selby will be v. good.  if he can't run point, they'll just put him off ball.  like collins his 1st couple years.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 12:29:48 PM »
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Perry Jones 6'10 Baylor Fr. -- Easily the most talented NCAA player and improved as the event went on. Struggled the first day in creating baskets and settled for finding teammates. His abilities for a 6-10 kid are obscene as he's got handle and passing ability plus great foot speed to take players off the dribble. As the event went on he got more comfortable and began to take over, putting up 19 points on the final day. He had some jaw dropping dunks and looked very comfortable with the ball in his hands. Inconsistency was his major problem in high school so showing that he can play to his abilities on a consistent basis needs to be his focus this year. If anyone has a chance to grab the #1 pick away from Harrison Barnes, it's Perry Jones.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 12:43:31 PM »
Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
 

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 12:44:58 PM »
Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
 

yes

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 01:06:21 PM »
Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
 

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 01:29:23 PM »
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Tyshawn Taylor  6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.

_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.



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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2010, 01:35:42 PM »
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Tyshawn Taylor  6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.

_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.




Developing players slowly...its was Self does best.  Maybe Frank took some notes from Self in regards to how to handle Wally?

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2010, 02:07:33 PM »
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Tyshawn Taylor  6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.

_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.




Developing players slowly...its was Self does best.  Maybe Frank took some notes from Self in regards to how to handle Wally?

Wally was the 6th rated power forward. Not quite the 2nd coming of Beasus Christ. We probably expect too much of him, but not the way hawktards do with TT. Watching him continue to not improve will be my fav part of ku's team this year.

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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2010, 02:22:10 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2010, 02:26:29 PM »
KU's big men are tearing it up:


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Marcus Morris 6'9 Kansas Jr. -- The Morris Twins both impressed using their experience and versatility to score. Marcus struggled early with his shooting, missing a number of outside jumpers and it appeared he was forcing it a little to show that he has range. He settled into a groove as the week went a long and by day 3 was one of the standouts. His ability to take the ball off the dribble, play in the post and knock down 15-18 foot jump shots makes him extremely versatile. He's the better shooter of the two which explains why he's been given a bigger role in KU's offense. The twins actually looked extremely similar all around. Despite measuring 6-7 wingspans, these guys have a lot of skills and should make a strong run at being first rounders in the next 2 years.


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Markief Morris  6'9 PF Kansas Jr. -- Markieff actually looked more impressive early on than his more decorated twin Marcus. "Kief" as the other "counselors" called him appears to be the more out going of the twins. He would probably benefit by having a year at Kansas with his brother not there as it's tough for both of them to get touches and attention they deserve since they're so similar. Kief's skill level is not very far behind his bothers and he might actually be the more explosive athlete.


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Thomas Robinson  6'8 Kansas So. -- Thomas played well and appears to have bulked up considerably. He's a specimen with such huge arms and hands and has packed on a lot of strength in his shoulders. He's a load to contain and was a force inside. Scouts however remain lukewarm on him. He doesn't show much yet in the way of an offensive game getting most of his baskets on dunks and put backs. He needs to improve his footwork inside and develop a better mid range jump shot. At 6-8, he's a little undersized for the PF position.


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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2010, 02:27:33 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2010, 02:35:56 PM »
in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2010, 02:41:05 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



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Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2010, 02:43:49 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



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symbolizes taylor's career?  :dunno:


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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2010, 02:52:53 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:

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Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.

I'm guessing Selby is a better driver on & off the court.

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



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Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.



Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season.  How many players did Frank have drafted?  TIA. 

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2010, 03:13:24 PM »
KU's big men are tearing it up:


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Thomas Robinson  6'8 Kansas So. -- Thomas played well and appears to have bulked up considerably. He's a specimen with such huge arms and hands and has packed on a lot of strength in his shoulders. He's a load to contain and was a force inside. Scouts however remain lukewarm on him. He doesn't show much yet in the way of an offensive game getting most of his baskets on dunks and put backs. He needs to improve his footwork inside and develop a better mid range jump shot. At 6-8, he's a little undersized for the PF position.

TEARING IT UP!

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 03:33:45 PM »
in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.

wtf?
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 03:58:55 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



 :facepalm:

Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.



Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season.  How many players did Frank have drafted?  TIA. 

UNI.   :facepalm:

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2010, 04:04:12 PM »
what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:



 :facepalm:

Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.



Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season.  How many players did Frank have drafted?  TIA. 

UNI.   :facepalm:


ku went 33-3, won the Big 12, was ranked #1 for the majority of the year, and swept K-State and Mizzou.





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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2010, 04:08:05 PM »
Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
 

That dolt still believes that as a matter of fact.  Taylor's banked half of his career three pointers for god sakes.

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2010, 04:54:30 PM »
in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.

wtf?

my point was muddled by too many words. my point is this, i don't think perry jones will not be as good as his freshman predecessors michael beasley and kevin durant. he is not as good a shooter as durant and is not as thick as beasley, but relies more on the wing. i could be completely wrong, but i just don't think perry is that damn good.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2010, 04:55:12 PM »
in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.

wtf?

my point was muddled by too many words. my point is this, i don't think perry jones will not be as good as his freshman predecessors michael beasley and kevin durant. he is not as good a shooter as durant and is not as thick as beasley, but relies more on the wing. i could be completely wrong, but i just don't think perry is that damn good.

Still too many words.