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Wine Thread
« on: August 04, 2010, 09:37:58 PM »
Really starting to get into wine, thanks to Mrs. EllToPay. Just finished off a bottle of Trio Vinegar, I guess its good. Still a noob at this wine stuff.

What are some good, non expensive bottles? Red or white...


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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 09:40:48 PM »
When I was a smoker, loved cab/merlot blends.

now mostly a chardonnay drinker.

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 09:43:33 PM »
Really starting to get into wine, thanks to Mrs. EllToPay. Just finished off a bottle of Trio Vinegar, I guess its good. Still a noob at this wine stuff.

What are some good, non expensive bottles? Red or white...

I'm big into Spanish wines and you can get some very good prices on them now.  Tapena is an extremely well priced brand...I love the Tempranillo and Garnacha.

http://www.tapenawines.com/spanish-wines.html

*edit-  Forgot to mention that Glazier distributes it in Wichita and KC, so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 09:44:11 PM »
What's non-expensive in your book?   :dunno:

I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...
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Re: Wine Thread
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 09:47:56 PM »
What's non-expensive in your book?   :dunno:

I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...

Less than $40 a bottle

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 09:59:31 PM »
What's non-expensive in your book?   :dunno:

I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...

Less than $40 a bottle

Sweet, that opens things up quite a bit.  One of my favorites, at any price-  Pares Balta, Mas Elena.  Run ya about $25-30 at a liquor store.

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 10:09:52 PM »
You can buy a whole lotta Mums?  :dunno:

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 10:15:54 PM »
it takes a long time to understand wine.  i'm not sure the best way to do it- by starting with milder blends or by deciding on a varietal you like and getting to really know it, then branch out from there.

probably the best way to do it is to stick with one style until you figure it out.  the same grape can be influenced by so many factors that you might think you're drinking a completely different varietal.  maybe start splitting a bottle a night with your wife.  don't spend too much, you won't know what you're tasting and a lot of the more expensive wines aren't meant for immediate consumption.  

on the weekends make it a game.  decide on a grape, let's say chardonnay.  you each buy two bottles of chard, one that is <$10 and one that is between $20-$30.  don't tell each other which is which.  you each serve each other your wines and jot down some thoughts on each and talk about them while you're drinking them, try to figure them out.  after you've knocked down half of all four bottles, which would be a bottle each, make the big reveal to each other.  then compare notes and talk more about which you liked and why.  it's pretty fun.

i was lucky, i started working at a liquor store around the time i turned 21 and in an effort to get us to sell more wine (because the margins are so high on it), the owner had us take classes and drink it a lot.  even though i've been drinking it forever, i still learn a lot.

also buy a decent book about wine and learn about the different grapes and their history.


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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 10:22:08 PM »
it takes a long time to understand wine.  i'm not sure the best way to do it- by starting with milder blends or by deciding on a varietal you like and getting to really know it, then branch out from there.

probably the best way to do it is to stick with one style until you figure it out.  the same grape can be influenced by so many factors that you might think you're drinking a completely different varietal.  maybe start splitting a bottle a night with your wife.  don't spend too much, you won't know what you're tasting and a lot of the more expensive wines aren't meant for immediate consumption.  

on the weekends make it a game.  decide on a grape, let's say chardonnay.  you each buy two bottles of chard, one that is <$10 and one that is between $20-$30.  don't tell each other which is which.  you each serve each other your wines and jot down some thoughts on each and talk about them while you're drinking them, try to figure them out.  after you've knocked down half of all four bottles, which would be a bottle each, make the big reveal to each other.  then compare notes and talk more about which you liked and why.  it's pretty fun.

i was lucky, i started working at a liquor store around the time i turned 21 and in an effort to get us to sell more wine (because the margins are so high on it), the owner had us take classes and drink it a lot.  even though i've been drinking it forever, i still learn a lot.

also buy a decent book about wine and learn about the different grapes and their history.

yeah, if you put a $200 bottle and a cheapie in front of me, i couldn't tell the difference.

i prefer red right now, whites are ok.

what do you mean by milder blends? what do i look for on the bottle? :confused:

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Re: Wine Thread
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 10:28:16 PM »
Less than $40 a bottle

dude!  for that money you can drink like a rough ridin' king.  that's not budget at all.  where are you located?
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 10:33:26 PM »
Less than $40 a bottle

dude!  for that money you can drink like a fracking king.  that's not budget at all.  where are you located?

never said i was on a budget, just didnt want to spend a lot of money on something i couldnt appreciate :dunno:

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 10:34:18 PM »
I had a bottle of blvd two jokers tonight and it was unreal good.  I think it was like 8 bucks.

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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 10:35:21 PM »
Mondavi is a good solid Cab.  Depending where you buy it, you can get it for $14-$18/ bottle

I also like Wolf Blass.  Red label.  They have a blend of Shiraz/Cab that is pretty good.  Around $20per.

I would buy a couple diff types in the above cost ranges until I found a few I like.  Doing this will also help you find a few tastes you don't like/do like.


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Re: Wine Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 10:36:10 PM »
Sys is right, you can get tons of really nice wines under $40.   Hell, you can get a bunch for under $15.

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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 11:20:12 PM »
you didn't say where you were.  since you don't know what you like, if you live anywhere moderately urban, i'd just look for a solid wine oriented liquor store, give them a price range, let them know you'll be spending some serious money and let them pick for you for a year or two.

by then you should at least know what you like and can just worry about finding it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 11:21:06 PM »
Smoking Loon is pretty good

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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 11:21:25 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2010, 11:29:19 PM »
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ask piss which store to go to, and then turn yourself to their mercy.  there's no way you'll do better on your own.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2010, 11:50:06 PM »
Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either.  Are either of these any good?

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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2010, 11:52:32 PM »
if it tastes good it tastes good, don't worry about price.

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2010, 12:14:59 AM »
There is no reason to buy anything other than Charles Shaw. $2 a bottle, and it taste like $15/bottle wine.

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2010, 12:19:40 AM »
Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either.  Are either of these any good?

Francis Coppola Diamond Collection 2007 Black Label Claret

Starborough Sauvignan Blanc from New Zealand 2008
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That Coppola is a good one.

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2010, 12:21:42 AM »
Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either.  Are either of these any good?

Francis Coppola Diamond Collection 2007 Black Label Claret

Starborough Sauvignan Blanc from New Zealand 2008
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That Coppola is a good one.

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Re: Wine Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2010, 06:15:41 AM »
Mondavi is a good solid Cab.  Depending where you buy it, you can get it for $14-$18/ bottle

I also like Wolf Blass.  Red label.  They have a blend of Shiraz/Cab that is pretty good.  Around $20per.

I would buy a couple diff types in the above cost ranges until I found a few I like.  Doing this will also help you find a few tastes you don't like/do like.



Sams has the Mondavi 08 cab for $9. Just loaded up on it. Very good every day cab imo.

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Re: Wine Thread
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2010, 06:19:06 AM »
Favorite chard is made by cuvaison. Get the s block if available.