Author Topic: CHIEFS (Read 2073128 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #900 on:** December 13, 2011, 06:53:21 PM »

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Dream scenario: hire Bill Cowher or Jeff Fisher and then draft RG3.

They are the two most overrated coaches in the history of the game of football. Cowher moreso than Fisher.

While being the head coach at Pittsburgh, Cowher was 149-90 with a 12-9 post season record in 10 playoff apprearances. He also won his division 8 times and won the Super Bowl once. I fail to see how he is overrated.

His successor has run laps around him

Yes. He's a solid coach, nothing more. People praise him like he's a legend.

theKSU · « **Reply #901 on:** December 13, 2011, 08:16:54 PM »

Unless Fisher is the new coach I see no reason to pay attention to the Chefs until Pioli is gone. And they get close to the cap.

jtksu · « **Reply #902 on:** December 13, 2011, 11:01:01 PM »

Pretty sure the new CBA (or whatever) forces the teams to spend at least 90% of the salary cap so the Chiefs could well be major players in the off season.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #903 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:43:31 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on December 13, 2011, 11:01:01 PM

Pretty sure the new CBA (or whatever) forces the teams to spend at least 90% of the salary cap so the Chiefs could well be major players in the off season.

Have to convince people to play in KC first.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #904 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:53:32 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on December 13, 2011, 11:01:01 PM

Pretty sure the new CBA (or whatever) forces the teams to spend at least 90% of the salary cap so the Chiefs could well be major players in the off season.

Are there going to be enough quality free agents for the Chiefs to double their team salary on in one offseason, or is this going to force them to overpay a few free agents just to meet the minimum salary? It seems to me that they should have planned for this last offseason and started to close the gap.

jtksu · « **Reply #905 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:01:10 AM »

Think there was no salary cap last off season so they were probably smart to not get too involved. And I think most players will just play where ever means the most money. The NFL is a bit different than MLB in that less dudes are thinking rings and more dudes are thinking about cashing in on their short career span.

joda · « **Reply #906 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:26:30 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on December 14, 2011, 09:53:32 AM

Quote from: jtksu on December 13, 2011, 11:01:01 PM
Pretty sure the new CBA (or whatever) forces the teams to spend at least 90% of the salary cap so the Chiefs could well be major players in the off season.

Are there going to be enough quality free agents for the Chiefs to double their team salary on in one offseason, or is this going to force them to overpay a few free agents just to meet the minimum salary? It seems to me that they should have planned for this last offseason and started to close the gap.

Fantasy GM right here... trade for Payton Manning, extend Dwayne Bowe and BOOM! salary cap spending!

jtksu · « **Reply #907 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:56:03 PM »

How much under the salary floor are they? And I'm not sure Peyton would fit the Chiefs MO, seems like he's still got numerous productive yrs left.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #908 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:29:46 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on December 14, 2011, 10:56:03 PM

How much under the salary floor are they? And I'm not sure Peyton would fit the Chiefs MO, seems like he's still got numerous productive yrs left.

They are $40 million under the cap, and the floor is 90% of the cap iirc, so I would estimate that they will need to spend at least $30 million this offseason. That's before taking into consideration any contracts they would lose to trades/free agency after this season.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #909 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:45:03 AM »

Like I've said before, the way the NFL is structured and with its lucrative TV deals . . . you almost have to try to be, or actually want to be inept for an extended period of time. The league does everything it can to raise the tide of all boats, and yet organizations like the Chiefs regularly fall flat on their face. Nothing of significance has been sustained over any length of time by this organization in nearly 2 decades, and they haven't drafted a legit franchise quarterback, well . . . ever.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #910 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:51:35 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 15, 2011, 08:45:03 AM

Like I've said before, the way the NFL is structured and with its lucrative TV deals . . . you almost have to try to be, or actually want to be inept for an extended period of time. The league does everything it can to raise the tide of all boats, and yet organizations like the Chiefs regularly fall flat on their face. Nothing of significance has been sustained over any length of time by this organization in nearly 2 decades, and they haven't drafted a legit franchise quarterback, well . . . ever.

I'm betting they get a QB this year. If they are smart they will go after RG3.

steve dave · « **Reply #911 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:23:26 PM »

I'm not a chiefs or nfl guy but I saw the chiefs ex coach haley on the espn round table guys thing....wow. complete rough ridin' badass.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #912 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:16:07 PM »

yes. love him. Bob Fescoe's butthurt over him is funny as well.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #913 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:37:36 PM »

yeah nfl

Cire · « **Reply #914 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:39:06 PM »

All aboard the orton/stanzi train baby

SabiNation · « **Reply #915 on:** December 18, 2011, 01:43:34 PM »

Beating the Packers at halftime...

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #916 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:41:17 PM »

Quote from: SabiNation on December 18, 2011, 01:43:34 PM

Beating the Packers at halftime...

Beating the Packers in the 4th...

SabiNation · « **Reply #917 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:46:43 PM »

Beating the Packers

kim carnes · « **Reply #918 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »

Kyle Orton appears to be considerably better than Matt Cassel. Not really groundbreaking news here, but I thought I would share it anyway.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #919 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:47:55 PM »

this game should be a blow out.

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #920 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:02:31 PM »

SabiNation · « **Reply #921 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:12:09 PM »

Romeo

Skipper44 · « **Reply #922 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:20:48 PM »

If Tom Terrific can do it for us today, the next 2 weeks could be entertaining

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #923 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:57:34 PM »

Quote from: Skipper44 on December 18, 2011, 03:20:48 PM

If Tom Terrific can do it for us today, the next 2 weeks could be entertaining

I don't think his D is up to the task.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #924 on:** December 18, 2011, 04:18:10 PM »

Quote from: Kleinstone on December 18, 2011, 03:57:34 PM

Quote from: Skipper44 on December 18, 2011, 03:20:48 PM
If Tom Terrific can do it for us today, the next 2 weeks could be entertaining

I don't think his D is up to the task.

was hoping Bill would give the blue :flush:print for stopping Tebus to the rest out the league