CHIEFS

[sonofdaxjones]

dax's "Leach system" or whatever post was a thing of beauty

Man I messed up.  The Leech (Mouse Davis/Hal Mumme) based offense has now produced a prolific NFL QB (singular). 

[SkinnyBenny]

Holy crap! Dax admitted he messed up.

[sonofdaxjones]

Holy crap! Dax admitted he messed up.

Imagine that, skinny stalker showing up now.

[SkinnyBenny]

 lawl

[star seed 7]

Holy crap! Dax admitted he messed up.

Not really tho

[mocat]

lmao

Well, what I mean is that it would have seemed true for like two weeks until we realized that Mahomes was incredible.  It actually would have never been true.

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yeah i'm actually not gonna let this one go. not even skip bayless would have said mahomes was the worst QB in the AFC in january 2018. it was pretty lol of you even back then.

[kitten_mittons]

lmao

Well, what I mean is that it would have seemed true for like two weeks until we realized that Mahomes was incredible.  It actually would have never been true.

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yeah i'm actually not gonna let this one go. not even skip bayless would have said mahomes was the worst QB in the AFC in january 2018. it was pretty lol of you even back then.

The AFC West would have been:
Phillip Rivers
Kirk Cousins
Derek Carr (who had just been named to his 3rd consecutive pro bowl)
Patrick Mahomes, who had 1 start at QB.

Where would you have put Mahomes in that group at that time.  Right now he is obviously the best of the 4.

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[kitten_mittons]

I see the problem, I meant division, not conference.

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[8manpick]

I would have put him at #1 then

[mocat]

I see the problem, I meant division, not conference.

oh ok that's less crazy. rivers and carr were still good then and you were broncos fanning yourself into believing kirk cousins didn't suck.

[mocat]

dax's "Leach system" or whatever post was a thing of beauty

Man I messed up.  The Leech (Mouse Davis/Hal Mumme) based offense has now produced a prolific NFL QB (singular).

the point is it's really lol to evaluate a player by looking at the system instead of the, you know, player

[8manpick]

https://twitter.com/realmnchiefsfan/status/1171130728043732996?s=21

[mocat]

lol remember when miles jack lost his entire crap in week 1?

[WillieWatanabe]

what a great tweet. wow

[ChiComCat]

With zone coverage, Kelce is just wide open 8-12 yards down the field every time.  Even if the LBs are in a decent position, Mahomes changes the pass trajectory or moves the pocket.

My favorite Kelce play of the year was against the Texans on 3rd down when they just decided they were going to have two guys interfere with everything Kelce did and hope it wasn't called.  It was so hopeless.

[DaBigTrain]

Wow, Dax.

[star seed 7]

Patrick is better than basically anyone who ever breathed, but its no guarantee we'll ever get another home AFC Championship game, with 2 (2!) 4th quarter leads. I think we'll be back, we should be the favorite going into 2019, but this narrative that this was the 2014 Royals, and next year we'll be watching Hosmer slide into home is, to me, a bit naive. Even with the best QB in the league getting a home conference championship game is hard. We should've won.

i'm pretty optimistic about the chiefs' chances of sustaining success w mahomes at QB and hosting a ton more playoff games. when arrowhead is truly rocking, it's (obviously) a hard place to play, and the chiefs won't be home underdogs in any game for the next five years. even with this year's team expected to be .500-ish, the chiefs were favored in all their early-season home games by at least a field goal; and overall, they were favored in every game by an average of 8 points.

through six years, andy is 36-12 at home since taking over the chiefs. i'd be shocked if the chiefs finish worse than 6-2 at home in the next several years, and they're likely to sprinkle in occasional 7-1's (like this year) or 8-0's. if you do that, the path to a top-2 seed is pretty easy. beat inferior teams on the road, win a couple coin flip games, and you're sitting at 12-4 or 13-3.

I am no longer satisfied with anything less than the Super Bowl. Lamar Hunt trophy is a minimum.

i'm pretty certain i don't care if the chiefs ever actually win the super bowl. i just want to see them in it, and i want to watch two weeks of nonstop coverage of the chiefs leading up to the super bowl, and i want to buy chiefs super bowl paper plates and chief super bowl themed cups, and i want to walk into my local sporting goods store and see chiefs super bowl tv shirts, and i want to walk into my grocery store and see chiefs balloons and chiefs cakes, and i want to be able to wear my chiefs shirt and have someone stop me on the street and say, "hey, chiefs, big game sunday!", and i want friends and family i haven't talked to in years to text messages like "go chiefs!" and "i'll be rooting for you" (as if i actually play on the team), and i want to see 500 chiefs related super bowl prop bets, and i want to see bud light roll its stupid beer fridges into all the local bars, and finally, i want to spend days torturing myself on how best to actually watch the game - home alone by myself? attend a friend's super bowl party? drive to vegas and watch at a sportsbook? fly to kc and watch at a bar? actually go to the game?

don't get me wrong, it would be cool to win one. but on some level, i feel like this lifelong journey of being a chiefs fan would be over if they actually did.

We need a j rake super bowl post

[sonofdaxjones]

dax's "Leach system" or whatever post was a thing of beauty

Man I messed up.  The Leech (Mouse Davis/Hal Mumme) based offense has now produced a prolific NFL QB (singular).

the point is it's really lol to evaluate a player by looking at the system instead of the, you know, player

It’s really LOL’able to not take into account the track record(s) to date.  One being the history of Chiefs first rounders, and two that of QB’s out of that system in the pro’s. 

I think I saw a blurb that said the Chiefs have the fewest 1st round picks on the roster of any SB team in years. 

The gamble clearly paid off and the recent article with Andy reaffirmed they were taking a huge gamble.  But they felt good about it.

But that’s not the narrative you want to hear.

[star seed 7]

The hunt family still hasn't given dax that free hotdog

[sonofdaxjones]

The hunt family still hasn't given dax that free hotdog

I’ve haven’t been in Arrowhead in 20 years, thank the FSM.

[mocat]

dax's "Leach system" or whatever post was a thing of beauty

Man I messed up.  The Leech (Mouse Davis/Hal Mumme) based offense has now produced a prolific NFL QB (singular).

the point is it's really lol to evaluate a player by looking at the system instead of the, you know, player

1 It’s really LOL’able to not take into account the track record(s) to date.  One being the history of Chiefs first rounders, and two that of QB’s out of that system in the pro’s. 

2 I think I saw a blurb that said the Chiefs have the fewest 1st round picks on the roster of any SB team in years. 

3 The gamble clearly paid off and the recent article with Andy reaffirmed they were taking a huge gamble.  But they felt good about it.

But that’s not the narrative you want to hear.

1 you wanted to doubt mahomes' ability because previous chiefs GMs had a history of screwing up their first round picks? are you serious when you say that? that makes no sense at all.

2 you didn't hear that blurb correctly. the chiefs are tied for the fewest 1st round picks by a super bowl team that were actually picked by that team (2: mahomes + fisher). there are a bunch of 1st round picks on the team that were picked by other teams (5: watkins, erving, lee, claiborne, suggs)

3 of course it was a gamble. your logic at the time as to why it wouldn't work was flawed (see #1). if patrick ended up sucking it would've been because he sucked, not because colt effing brennan sucked.

[mocat]

Patrick is better than basically anyone who ever breathed, but its no guarantee we'll ever get another home AFC Championship game, with 2 (2!) 4th quarter leads. I think we'll be back, we should be the favorite going into 2019, but this narrative that this was the 2014 Royals, and next year we'll be watching Hosmer slide into home is, to me, a bit naive. Even with the best QB in the league getting a home conference championship game is hard. We should've won.

i'm pretty optimistic about the chiefs' chances of sustaining success w mahomes at QB and hosting a ton more playoff games. when arrowhead is truly rocking, it's (obviously) a hard place to play, and the chiefs won't be home underdogs in any game for the next five years. even with this year's team expected to be .500-ish, the chiefs were favored in all their early-season home games by at least a field goal; and overall, they were favored in every game by an average of 8 points.

through six years, andy is 36-12 at home since taking over the chiefs. i'd be shocked if the chiefs finish worse than 6-2 at home in the next several years, and they're likely to sprinkle in occasional 7-1's (like this year) or 8-0's. if you do that, the path to a top-2 seed is pretty easy. beat inferior teams on the road, win a couple coin flip games, and you're sitting at 12-4 or 13-3.

I am no longer satisfied with anything less than the Super Bowl. Lamar Hunt trophy is a minimum.

i'm pretty certain i don't care if the chiefs ever actually win the super bowl. i just want to see them in it, and i want to watch two weeks of nonstop coverage of the chiefs leading up to the super bowl, and i want to buy chiefs super bowl paper plates and chief super bowl themed cups, and i want to walk into my local sporting goods store and see chiefs super bowl tv shirts, and i want to walk into my grocery store and see chiefs balloons and chiefs cakes, and i want to be able to wear my chiefs shirt and have someone stop me on the street and say, "hey, chiefs, big game sunday!", and i want friends and family i haven't talked to in years to text messages like "go chiefs!" and "i'll be rooting for you" (as if i actually play on the team), and i want to see 500 chiefs related super bowl prop bets, and i want to see bud light roll its stupid beer fridges into all the local bars, and finally, i want to spend days torturing myself on how best to actually watch the game - home alone by myself? attend a friend's super bowl party? drive to vegas and watch at a sportsbook? fly to kc and watch at a bar? actually go to the game?

don't get me wrong, it would be cool to win one. but on some level, i feel like this lifelong journey of being a chiefs fan would be over if they actually did.

We need a j rake super bowl post

 

[sonofdaxjones]

dax's "Leach system" or whatever post was a thing of beauty

Man I messed up.  The Leech (Mouse Davis/Hal Mumme) based offense has now produced a prolific NFL QB (singular).

the point is it's really lol to evaluate a player by looking at the system instead of the, you know, player

1 It’s really LOL’able to not take into account the track record(s) to date.  One being the history of Chiefs first rounders, and two that of QB’s out of that system in the pro’s. 

2 I think I saw a blurb that said the Chiefs have the fewest 1st round picks on the roster of any SB team in years. 

3 The gamble clearly paid off and the recent article with Andy reaffirmed they were taking a huge gamble.  But they felt good about it.

But that’s not the narrative you want to hear.

1 you wanted to doubt mahomes' ability because previous chiefs GMs had a history of screwing up their first round picks? are you serious when you say that? that makes no sense at all.

2 you didn't hear that blurb correctly. the chiefs are tied for the fewest 1st round picks by a super bowl team that were actually picked by that team (2: mahomes + fisher). there are a bunch of 1st round picks on the team that were picked by other teams (5: watkins, erving, lee, claiborne, suggs)

3 of course it was a gamble. your logic at the time as to why it wouldn't work was flawed (see #1). if patrick ended up sucking it would've been because he sucked, not because colt effing brennan sucked.

LOL, so the concern about any Chiefs first round pick is completely warranted by any long term Chiefs fan.

Also LOL'ing at your idiocy regarding system.    For example there was a time that Cornhole lineman who were roided up super studs would translate into the NFL and that was proven time and and time again to be completely wrong, multiple NFL teams learned the hard way.    So your complete dismissal of system is just dumb.   

To date, Patrick Mahomes will be easily the most prolific QB to come out of the Davis-Mumme-Leach system. 

All your gloating is based on nearly 4 years of hindsight.   

[8manpick]

Quick mucking this thread up on the best Chiefs week of our lives you dorks

[mocat]

People celebrate in different ways 8mp