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12 Team Playoff
« on: September 03, 2024, 09:37:00 AM »
Why has FSU already been eliminated? Can they not still win the ACC and get in?


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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2024, 09:41:17 AM »
Who is saying they are eliminated?
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2024, 09:43:01 AM »
:lol:

Glad Florida State did everyone a favor and eliminated themselves from playoff talk months ahead of when it'll be controversial and then be pissed about it


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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2024, 09:51:36 AM »
Who is saying they are eliminated?

It's all over Twitter. I'm thinking people are exaggerating and it's not actually official. But I don't know the rules.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2024, 09:55:35 AM »
They would probably, although not definitively, need to win the ACC to get in.  To win the ACC, they likely need to win out in ACC games.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2024, 10:06:22 AM »
Being eliminated just after week 1 is wild!

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2024, 10:19:26 AM »
They have played twice now, they were the week 0 game in Ireland. They would definitely need to win the ACC but I think the Twitter stuff is just mocking them with how much they cried last year.
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2024, 10:30:45 AM »
Obviously they can get in winning the ACC, that being said they are also 0-2 in the ACC, in addition to being 0-2. They (almost certainly) have to win out in the ACC to even get in the conference champ game, let alone even win it. I wouldn't call them eliminated, but they are way less than a 1% chance imo of getting, with I think any loss unless it's noncon effectively ending it for them. They will have to root hard for the ACC to be full of 2+ conference teams and hold a lot of tie breakers somehow.
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2024, 10:43:27 AM »
Yeah, they're done. They still have Clemson and Miami in conference. Their non con is also insane; Memphis, Notre Dame, and Florida.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2024, 10:46:29 AM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2024, 12:00:04 PM »
florida state hater here, eff ‘em


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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2024, 12:03:10 PM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

Yeah for last year, 100% agree
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2024, 07:42:09 AM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

Yeah for last year, 100% agree

The screw job FSU received last year is what reaffirmed, at least to me, that this will forever be about money and not the actual on field product.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2024, 08:08:01 PM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

Yeah for last year, 100% agree

The screw job FSU received last year is what reaffirmed, at least to me, that this will forever be about money and not the actual on field product.

You are quite naive if you didn't realize this when it started during the BCS era.
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2024, 09:11:12 AM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

Agreed.  I'm a fan of ranking purely on resumes, not some assumption of talent.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2024, 09:41:24 AM »
I'm also not a Florida State hater and I thought they were right to be pissed about being left out. They earned, on the field, the right to play in the CFP.

Yeah for last year, 100% agree

The screw job FSU received last year is what reaffirmed, at least to me, that this will forever be about money and not the actual on field product.

You are quite naive if you didn't realize this when it started during the BCS era.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2024, 01:10:17 PM »
Does the ACC champ get an autobid or is it just the 5 highest-ranked conference champs? Because if there's a possibility of them winning the ACC and not getting a bid, that's what I'm rooting for.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2024, 01:31:02 PM »
ACC gets auto bid and the highest ranked G5 champ gets the 5th
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2024, 03:31:44 PM »
I really want the cats in the first 12 team playoff, dudes
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2024, 03:47:41 PM »
One thing I don't like is that the top 4 seeds don't get a home game.  I get why it's set up that way and a bye is more valuable, but that's disappointing. 

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2024, 03:48:28 PM »
ACC gets auto bid and the highest ranked G5 champ gets the 5th

Yeah this is correct, the one thing to note if you want the ACC to have something funny happen to them (or any conference for that matter), is that the 4 byes are not P4 autos, but rather the 4 highest ranked conference champs, so theoretically 3/4 will always be a P4, but a P4 champ could be ranked lower than like a 13-0 Boise State if you assume the ACC conference champ is like a 10-1 NC State over a 11-1 Miami or something.

It also means ND can never have a bye under the current format.
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2024, 04:08:37 PM »
One thing I don't like is that the top 4 seeds don't get a home game.  I get why it's set up that way and a bye is more valuable, but that's disappointing.
A playoff game at home would be so phenomenal.
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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2024, 05:04:06 PM »
One thing I don't like is that the top 4 seeds don't get a home game.  I get why it's set up that way and a bye is more valuable, but that's disappointing.
A playoff game at home would be so phenomenal.

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2024, 05:11:24 PM »
ACC gets auto bid and the highest ranked G5 champ gets the 5th

Yeah this is correct, the one thing to note if you want the ACC to have something funny happen to them (or any conference for that matter), is that the 4 byes are not P4 autos, but rather the 4 highest ranked conference champs, so theoretically 3/4 will always be a P4, but a P4 champ could be ranked lower than like a 13-0 Boise State if you assume the ACC conference champ is like a 10-1 NC State over a 11-1 Miami or something.

It also means ND can never have a bye under the current format.

That's inaccurate. It's possible, I guess, for a P4 champion to not get an autobid. That champion would have to have like 4 or 5 losses and there would have to be multiple G5 undefeated champions though.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5726745/2024/08/30/college-football-playoff-2024-format-guide/
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That 13-person selection committee, as it did in the four-team era, will rank its top-25 teams weekly, beginning Nov. 5 and culminating on Dec. 8. The panel consists of current athletic directors and school administrators, and former coaches and players, all of whom are supposed to evaluate the teams based on schedule strength, head-to-head results and their own subjective opinions. Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel is the new chairman.

The big difference in the new format is that the committee’s five highest-ranked conference champions receive guaranteed berths. While not set in writing, it’s presumed they will go to the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 and SEC champions, as well as the highest-ranked champion from the Group of 5 leagues (AAC, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt).

The other seven bids go to the highest-ranked teams that did not win their conference.

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Re: 12 Team Playoff
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2024, 05:15:38 PM »
Just had a vision of our KSU wildcats getting to play the huskers in the CFP and beating them .

Looking at Nebraska's schedule they have 2 ranked teams left....at USC and at OSU.

But then I realized there is probably no way a 10-2 NU makes the playoffs if their best win is Iowa/Wisconsin?