Why is DJamer Giddens Not Talked About More?

[CNS]

DJamer seems really good at YAC, but that is just an eye test thing and I don’t want to actually look it up.

I am pro DJamer getting the ball a bunch more.

[PurpleOil]

DJamer seems really good at YAC, but that is just an eye test thing and I don’t want to actually look it up.

I am pro DJamer getting the ball a bunch more.

I don't know the exact numbers, but he has better YAC than any of our other RBs.

[stunted]

it's sproles 1, giddens 2 for me.

i really think the "big play" thing is overrated. it can be legit for some like that mizzou wr, tyreek, d'anthony thomas, sproles. but without elite speed or jukes a lot of it is blocking and luck. although some players can be a negative in the big play category. like harry trotter.

dylan "big play" edwards trash ass:

[DQ12]

it's sproles 1, giddens 2 for me.

Daniel Thomas

[nicname]

it's sproles 1, giddens 2 for me.

Daniel Thomas

I see some DT in the running style of DJamer.

1. Sproles
2.Thomas
3. Deuce
4. Scobey
5. Hickson
6. Hubert

How high can DJamer rise? Where does JJ Smith fall on the list?

[DQ12]

it's sproles 1, giddens 2 for me.

Daniel Thomas

I see some DT in the running style of DJamer.

1. Sproles
2.Thomas
3. Deuce
4. Scobey
5. Hickson
6. Hubert

How high can DJamer rise? Where does JJ Smith fall on the list?

DJamer reminds me more of Scobey

[mocat]

I love when stunz stunz

[chum1]

I love when stunz stunz

Dylan Edwards catching strays in the Giddens thread is awesome.

[stunted]

the numbers don't lie, giddens is on track to being #2

there is no "stunzing" here

[ChiComCat]

I find the RB/QB pairings interesting.  Usually, it's more speed on speed with Johnson/Ward and more power on power with Howard/Giddens.  I get it but would also like to see some more Johnson/Giddens.  Maybe it takes some of the sting out of making a mistake in the read option but I think it makes the defense think about between the tackles a little more too.

[DQ12]

Giddens may end up being better than Thomas and he may be right now (what do I know?) -- he had a few runs against UCF that were absolutely eye-popping. 

But if you gave me the option of having 2010 Daniel Thomas this weekend against Texas, but DJamer can't play, I'm taking that.

[nicname]

Go back and watch highlights of DT. He was a talent never before seen at KSU. He was our offense while here and carried an otherwise mediocre at best offense and a severely limited qb to success.


https://youtu.be/JAK-AcbF-f4?si=ZpCeugv4G4ghJtbf

[ChiComCat]

DT and Scobey both carried shitty offenses, both ran pretty upright, and both were pretty strong.  I agree that Giddens fits that mold but also agree that he has a better OL and definitely has a better offense. It's tough to say he's better than those guys (at the moment) because the defense can't load up on him like they did the others.

[chum1]

I'm not watching a DT vid. But if anyone has a Dylan Edwards sucking crap vid, they need to go ahead a post it.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Go back and watch highlights of DT. He was a talent never before seen at KSU. He was our offense while here and carried an otherwise mediocre at best offense and a severely limited qb to success.


https://youtu.be/JAK-AcbF-f4?si=ZpCeugv4G4ghJtbf

Amazing DT was able to run as well as he did when that offense had no other weapons defenses needed to account for.

[Kid In the Hall]

Alex Barnes also belongs in this discussion - his junior year (1,300+ yards, 5.3 ypc, 12 TDs, 194 receiving yards) is better than any year anyone not named Sproles, Vaughn or Thomas produced. If he had stayed for his senior year and put up similar numbers, we'd likely be talking about him along with those other three as opposed to a clear notch below.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Alex Barnes also belongs in this discussion - his junior year (1,300+ yards, 5.3 ypc, 12 TDs, 194 receiving yards) is better than any year anyone not named Sproles, Vaughn or Thomas produced. If he had stayed for his senior year and put up similar numbers, we'd likely be talking about him along with those other three as opposed to a clear notch below.

The last year he played for the Cats, my order number at VistaBurger after the game just happened to be #34.

[DQ12]

I never niches cared for Barnes.

[Katpappy]

As I can see by what has been posted, I am absolutely correct when I noted that John Hubret was not given the credit he deserved.  Here is the list of rushing records by the top RBs in KSU history.

1)  Darren Sproles- 4,979

2)  Deuce Vaughn-  3,604

3)  John Hubert-     2,993

4)  Daniel Thomas-  2,850

5)  QB, Ell Roberson-2,818

6)  Alex Barnes-       2,616

7)  Eric Hickson-       2,537

8)  QB, Collin Klein-  2,485

If you use Mocat math, you can see the CK/JH combo was the highest combo.  Don't know why Hubert doesn't get the attention that the other RBs get.

[DQ12]

I love Hubert and think he was a good rb.  He is not among the top 3 backs at K-State imo.  Probably to 6 or 7ish.  You’re right that he didn’t get the credit he deserved (even though he was first team all conference).

[nicname]

You're absolutely correct that Huber is overlooked katdaddy. After further consideration I'd put him on the Mt. Rushmore of KSU RBs from Snyder 1.0 onward.

[mocat]

Hubot had some big moments on an all time great ksu team

[stunted]

switch barnes and hubes teams and i bet barnes would get a ton more love.

underrated runningback? james johnson

[catastrophe]

Go back and watch highlights of DT. He was a talent never before seen at KSU. He was our offense while here and carried an otherwise mediocre at best offense and a severely limited qb to success.


https://youtu.be/JAK-AcbF-f4?si=ZpCeugv4G4ghJtbf

Amazing DT was able to run as well as he did when that offense had no other weapons defenses needed to account for.

What’s equally amazing is how far live sports  productions have come and how fast time goes  when you’re older. I feel like DT was just a few seasons ago but if I had seen those highlights without any names or numbers I probably would’ve guessed they were from the 90s.

[nicname]

Fun fact: Each of the following RBs averaged 5.3 yards per carry in their final season as a Wildcat.

Darren Sproles
Daniel Thomas
John Hubert
Deuce Vaughn
Josh Scobey
Alex Barnes