We got to beat Texass

[michigancat]

The game was lost with that terrible first half offensive game plan. Shouldn't have come down to the last play

[wetwillie]

lots of positives from today, I think we win out and finish 9-3.  can’t complain about that!

Yea I also think we finish 9-3, and that's remarkable honestly.   Klieman is going to be averaging over 8 wins per regular season in his 4 full seasons he's coached here and that's incredibly good.  I would have taken the under on 7 per year when he was hired.

[Stupid Fitz]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. We're just a few plays away from having an absolutely remarkable season.

The games we've lost are the games you are supposed to win by having your senior QB make plays at the end of the game.

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Yep, I also think the play calls on those “must get” plays have been complete crap.


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I have no quarrel with this statement.

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I’ll never understand running the QB off center from the shotgun with 1 or less yards to go. I know that is part of the offense and we do it successfully some times but they knew it was coming. Also, it was third down. Get under center, try a sneak or a run and make a 4th down decision. Doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is just dumb.


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[Stupid Fitz]

The game was lost with that terrible first half offensive game plan. Shouldn't have come down to the last play

That makes me feel even worse about CK’s shitty playcalls on important plays in the second half.


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[catastrophe]

The game was lost with that terrible first half offensive game plan. Shouldn't have come down to the last play

Finally some common ground.

We acted like we expected to wear their D line down and got manhandled instead. Credit to CK for adjusting at the half but he obviously gets the blame for coming in with the game plan in the first place.

[catastrophe]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. We're just a few plays away from having an absolutely remarkable season.

The games we've lost are the games you are supposed to win by having your senior QB make plays at the end of the game.

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Yep, I also think the play calls on those “must get” plays have been complete crap.


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I have no quarrel with this statement.

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I’ll never understand running the QB off center from the shotgun with 1 or less yards to go. I know that is part of the offense and we do it successfully some times but they knew it was coming. Also, it was third down. Get under center, try a sneak or a run and make a 4th down decision. Doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is just dumb.


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100% should have been under center. Nothing to complain about if your oversized QB can’t fall forward for a yard.

[wetwillie]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. We're just a few plays away from having an absolutely remarkable season.

The games we've lost are the games you are supposed to win by having your senior QB make plays at the end of the game.

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Yep, I also think the play calls on those “must get” plays have been complete crap.


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I have no quarrel with this statement.

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I’ll never understand running the QB off center from the shotgun with 1 or less yards to go. I know that is part of the offense and we do it successfully some times but they knew it was coming. Also, it was third down. Get under center, try a sneak or a run and make a 4th down decision. Doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is just dumb.


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100% should have been under center. Nothing to complain about if your oversized QB can’t fall forward for a yard.

Did you see what the NT did to our center all game?

[catastrophe]

Even if you think the NT is winning that battle, I think you still have close to a 50/50 shot if you can guess the better side to go to.

[wetwillie]

Ok so you didn't, that's fine.

[Stupid Fitz]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. We're just a few plays away from having an absolutely remarkable season.

The games we've lost are the games you are supposed to win by having your senior QB make plays at the end of the game.

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Yep, I also think the play calls on those “must get” plays have been complete crap.


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I have no quarrel with this statement.

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I’ll never understand running the QB off center from the shotgun with 1 or less yards to go. I know that is part of the offense and we do it successfully some times but they knew it was coming. Also, it was third down. Get under center, try a sneak or a run and make a 4th down decision. Doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is just dumb.


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100% should have been under center. Nothing to complain about if your oversized QB can’t fall forward for a yard.

Did you see what the NT did to our center all game?

So doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is a better plan to handle the NT? It was a complete crap play all regardless. If you are going to run the QB up the middle for 1 yard, I’d much rather him not need 6 yards to get there.


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[wetwillie]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. We're just a few plays away from having an absolutely remarkable season.

The games we've lost are the games you are supposed to win by having your senior QB make plays at the end of the game.

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Yep, I also think the play calls on those “must get” plays have been complete crap.


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I have no quarrel with this statement.

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I’ll never understand running the QB off center from the shotgun with 1 or less yards to go. I know that is part of the offense and we do it successfully some times but they knew it was coming. Also, it was third down. Get under center, try a sneak or a run and make a 4th down decision. Doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is just dumb.


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100% should have been under center. Nothing to complain about if your oversized QB can’t fall forward for a yard.

Did you see what the NT did to our center all game?

So doing the same thing from 5 yards further back is a better plan to handle the NT? It was a complete crap play all regardless. If you are going to run the QB up the middle for 1 yard, I’d much rather him not need 6 yards to get there.


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I don't agree with running Will at all, but going under center was a guaranteed failure.   Would have preferred 4 attempts with empty backfields and going to the endzone each time.

[Trim]

Scoring on a single play from 4-yards out is one of the hardest feats to accomplish in football.

There are at least 95 harder feats.

[MakeItRain]

Scoring on a single play from 4-yards out is one of the hardest feats to accomplish in football.

There are at least 95 harder feats.

Basic math here folks

[michigancat]

Scoring on a single play from 4-yards out is one of the hardest feats to accomplish in football.

There are at least 95 harder feats.

Basic math here folks

Except there are roughly a billion possible scenarios!

[MakeItRain]

Scoring on a single play from 4-yards out is one of the hardest feats to accomplish in football.

There are at least 95 harder feats.

Basic math here folks

Except there are roughly a billion possible scenarios!

He did say, at least!

[SkinnyBenny]

Had to go for it but that play call was oof

You absolutely did not have to go for it

Yea you do bud

This is such an idiotic take. People argue whether or not it was the right call to go for it when it was clearly proven to be the wrong call. The proof is in the pudding. We went for it, got manhandled on the line and in pass coverage, and came nowhere close to converting. It was a terrible call. Was Tennant bad? Yes but that would've been basically an extra point, and even if he missed it, we'd be sitting here looking at the same result.

[nicname]

 

You guys know what point my hyperbole was trying to make.

[MakeItRain]

Had to go for it but that play call was oof

You absolutely did not have to go for it

Yea you do bud

This is such an idiotic take. People argue whether or not it was the right call to go for it when it was clearly proven to be the wrong call. The proof is in the pudding. We went for it, got manhandled on the line and in pass coverage, and came nowhere close to converting. It was a terrible call. Was Tennant bad? Yes but that would've been basically an extra point, and even if he missed it, we'd be sitting here looking at the same result.

If getting "manhandled" on that play made it a bad play, what exactly would be different if we elected to kick the field goal and if we made said field goal? If you don't have confidence in gaining four yards, seems like using a strategy that requires you to gain 21 more yards, is let's say, inconsistent logic.

[michigancat]

Had to go for it but that play call was oof

You absolutely did not have to go for it

Yea you do bud

This is such an idiotic take. People argue whether or not it was the right call to go for it when it was clearly proven to be the wrong call. The proof is in the pudding. We went for it, got manhandled on the line and in pass coverage, and came nowhere close to converting. It was a terrible call. Was Tennant bad? Yes but that would've been basically an extra point, and even if he missed it, we'd be sitting here looking at the same result.

If getting "manhandled" on that play made it a bad play, what exactly would be different if we elected to kick the field goal and if we made said field goal? If you don't have confidence in gaining four yards, seems like using a strategy that requires you to gain 21 more yards, is let's say, inconsistent logic.

I feel like you're intentionally ignoring how down and distance works.

[SkinnyBenny]

Had to go for it but that play call was oof

You absolutely did not have to go for it

Yea you do bud

This is such an idiotic take. People argue whether or not it was the right call to go for it when it was clearly proven to be the wrong call. The proof is in the pudding. We went for it, got manhandled on the line and in pass coverage, and came nowhere close to converting. It was a terrible call. Was Tennant bad? Yes but that would've been basically an extra point, and even if he missed it, we'd be sitting here looking at the same result.

If getting "manhandled" on that play made it a bad play, what exactly would be different if we elected to kick the field goal and if we made said field goal? If you don't have confidence in gaining four yards, seems like using a strategy that requires you to gain 21 more yards, is let's say, inconsistent logic.

I don't think so. We were so much better in plays where we could spread the field than short yardage plays. When you're going for broke on one play from the four yard-line, you're limited because the field is so compressed because of the back of the end zone being out of bounds. Had we kicked and taken it to a second OT I like our chances of breaking loose from a mid-range or longer play when we have more field to work with. Hell, that first OT play we had to Sinnott went for 17 yards pretty effortlessly.

[michigancat]

Like look at our red zone touchdown rate vs. our 4th down conversion rate or 2 point conversion rate.

[mocat]

It would have been a bold and daring call with nfl OT rules, knowing you might not get the ball back if you kick a fg to tie.
With cfb OT rules it was just artificially putting the entire game on a 4th and 4 even though you could kick a short fg and get the ball back again with new downs

[wetwillie]

Missed opportunity for a short side option imo

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Missed opportunity for a short side option imo

[MakeItRain]

Had to go for it but that play call was oof

You absolutely did not have to go for it

Yea you do bud

This is such an idiotic take. People argue whether or not it was the right call to go for it when it was clearly proven to be the wrong call. The proof is in the pudding. We went for it, got manhandled on the line and in pass coverage, and came nowhere close to converting. It was a terrible call. Was Tennant bad? Yes but that would've been basically an extra point, and even if he missed it, we'd be sitting here looking at the same result.

If getting "manhandled" on that play made it a bad play, what exactly would be different if we elected to kick the field goal and if we made said field goal? If you don't have confidence in gaining four yards, seems like using a strategy that requires you to gain 21 more yards, is let's say, inconsistent logic.

I feel like you're intentionally ignoring how down and distance works.

Well to score a touchdown we'd eventually have to either get four yards or convert a fourth down.