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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2023, 07:17:36 PM »
Never go full Revolver.

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2023, 07:29:09 PM »
I love how the market just calls their bluff every day no matter what they say/do. like the bond market calling jerome's bluff all day every day. so pure.

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2023, 07:47:50 PM »
if he McCarthy votes for the ceiling, they will most likely recall him and he will most likely lose his speakership.

anything is possible, but this doesn't look likely at the moment.  the republican caucus appears to be pretty united and content with how mccarthy is negotiating.  the freedom caucus will vote against the deal, but be willing to see it pass with dem votes.
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2023, 05:13:44 PM »
I just can’t fathom they won’t cut a deal

appears to have nailed it.  not much drama this iteration.
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2023, 05:23:07 PM »
Fire up the money printer again  :excited:
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2023, 09:38:07 PM »
mccarthy deserves some credit, i think.  when he needed like 140 rounds to be elected speaker people were saying he'd be the weakest speaker in history and beholden to the freedom caucus.  instead, it looks like he's gonna deliver the majority of his caucus for a no-drama, super ordinary deal and the freedom caucus isn't going to do anything more than whine to the press.

https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1662636686000414721
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the coming debt limit war
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2023, 09:47:57 PM »
Just money (until we say otherwise, when it’s politically expedient to say otherwise)
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2023, 07:10:52 AM »
mccarthy deserves some credit, i think.  when he needed like 140 rounds to be elected speaker people were saying he'd be the weakest speaker in history and beholden to the freedom caucus.  instead, it looks like he's gonna deliver the majority of his caucus for a no-drama, super ordinary deal and the freedom caucus isn't going to do anything more than whine to the press.

https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1662636686000414721
Yeah, agree. Nicely done.


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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2023, 08:17:32 AM »
Joes got that centrist soft spot for the other side of the aisle


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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2023, 12:04:51 PM »
I feel bad about how much I’m enjoying the MAGA tears surrounding the debt deal.

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2023, 12:07:38 PM »
Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2023, 04:05:09 PM »
Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?

no, we're good.
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2023, 04:11:29 PM »
I feel bad about how much I’m enjoying the MAGA tears surrounding the debt deal.

that's pretty mean, I am a mess over here.  can't stop blubbering

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2023, 01:46:25 PM »
Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?

 :ROFL: yeah right

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2023, 02:05:01 PM »
:)
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2023, 08:52:37 PM »
more of a feel good, common grounder than a war.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1664080912999497730
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2023, 01:14:27 PM »
it's time to rekindle the previously kindled discussion of the house republican caucus not being able to pass the most basic goddamned bills known to man.

the current version is to shutdown the govt, which seems pretty likely to happen at the end of the month.


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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2023, 02:23:34 PM »
even rule votes getting shredded by the freedom caucus.  i think the idea that some of them want mccarthy's head has some merit.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1704883639266230418
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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2023, 02:26:03 PM »
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2023, 02:30:10 PM »
Boehner and Pelosi could absolutely not be mumped with. Complete domination of their underlings.

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2023, 02:37:46 PM »
I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

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Re: the coming debt limit war
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2023, 02:44:26 PM »
I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

The problem is that a block of 4 people can stop McCarthy from doing anything. So if he kicks someone off of a committee or defunds a district, that person has to have fewer than 3 friends.

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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2023, 11:25:36 PM »
I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

He also had to make a deal to completely neuter himself before he won the speaker vote. This was inevitable.