Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!

[nicname]

I was all aboard the Seth Latrell train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

I’ve turned. I’m excited. Big balls by GT if true and a huge gamble. I also like big boy football and that’s what we’d play if we hire Klieman.

  u digg?

[MakeItRain]

I was all aboard the Seth LittreLL train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

Do it, so I can arrive stunt on you hoes, again.

[DQ12]

I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.

[catastrophe]

Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.

We should push all of our chips in on track and field and find a way to cheat at it. Sucks they only get like 50% scholarships there. That’s why my bro chose ULM, because they got him to full between cross country and track.

If we are not counting baseball then this for sure.  freaking ku won one in women's.  We have a history and if we get enough decathletes and high jumpers we don't even need to have a dominant sprint program to win a natty.

and MIR is right.  A program doesn't have to trade its olympics to win in the good sports.

Yes, all of that, I'd love to just go all in on something and get that off our backs, or win like 8 of them and become crop judging levels good at it

I think the point is that everyone can be on board with lobbying the AD to do a better job with the non-revenue sports, but many fans (myself included) would never want to fire an AD if we were having success in FB and BB—regardless of everything else.

[catastrophe]

I was all aboard the Seth Latrell train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

I’ve turned. I’m excited. Big balls by GT if true and a huge gamble. I also like big boy football and that’s what we’d play if we hire Klieman.

  u digg?

I’ve said it a few times already, but jmarks’ anti-Litrell thread turned me onto Kleiman.

[Pete]

Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.

It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.

[chum1]

Gene needs to apologize to all of us for trying to hire LittreLL.

[MakeItRain]

Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.

It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.

It wasn't people, it was me. Neither me nor the two other people who took exception to how he's handling baseball indicated that Gene was a bad AD or should be fired because of it. For someone not wanting to belabor a very radical point, you sure seem to find ways to clumsily shoehorn that point fairly frequently. We know you don't care for any sports other than football and men's basketball.

Gene, like every other person with a job ever, will have the totality of his job judged and evaluated. If he has the success in football and basketball you want, he's almost certainly going to have success in other sports as well because he's a good athletic director. You can definitely be like 3/4 of all college sports fans and just worry about those two other sports without constantly telling us about it.

[MakeItRain]

Gene needs to apologize to all of us for trying to hire LittreLL.

He didn't tho. If he offered that chaw chomping red dirt downgrade the job, he would have sprinted to Manhattan.

[Pete]

Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.

It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.

It wasn't people, it was me. Neither me nor the two other people who took exception to how he's handling baseball indicated that Gene was a bad AD or should be fired because of it. For someone not wanting to belabor a very radical point, you sure seem to find ways to clumsily shoehorn that point fairly frequently. We know you don't care for any sports other than football and men's basketball.

Gene, like every other person with a job ever, will have the totality of his job judged and evaluated. If he has the success in football and basketball you want, he's almost certainly going to have success in other sports as well because he's a good athletic director. You can definitely be like 3/4 of all college sports fans and just worry about those two other sports without constantly telling us about it.

You are not the boss of me.

[DQ12]

I only like the two big ones (and bass fishing + soil/crop judging) too, Pete.  Gene is checking every box for me.

[Cire]

I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

[Dugout DickStone]

I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.

Same.  I even mumped around with neil brown.  happy to be dumb

[DQ12]

I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.

Same.  I even mumped around with neil brown.  happy to be dumb

I liked'em all really.  Norvell too.

Gene knew better.  That's why they call him the Gene-ius.

[wetwillie]

We just all wanted Snyder’s dusty ass to be gone so bad we fell for the first piece of ass that got thrown our way.

[Fedor]

No need for me to apologize.  While I was not overly enthusiastic, I know the Klie-man won multiple championships as both coordinator and head coach.  Most importantly the success continued after he ascended so it was likely he was the secret sauce all along.

[MakeItRain]

I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

The only thing that was a sham about it was that Gene had to give the appearance that someone like Seth LittreLL had anything close to the qualifications as Chris Klieman. Absolutely rough ridin' ridiculous that someone, at the time, was 23-17 at North Texas was a better candidate than someone who won 7 consecutive FCS championships. Some of you downgrades we're calling him a D2 coach, as if rough ridin' North Texas was ever a better program than NDSU.

[DQ12]

I think there were some legitimate questions/concerns to be had with CK (recruiting, different competition levels, what he inherited at NDSU).  But the truth is, I think a lot of people were swept up in the hot midmajor coach du jour who looked kind of like Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights and wanted to feel like big important boys and when we didn't get our way we threw a tantrum and projected.  That was probably my psychology.  "Settling" for the CK "experiment" didn't seem flashy enough.  Felt SLTHy.

Idiotic stuff, but I think that's what happened.  I will say that after the initial disappointment, which lasted probably less than 2-days, the resistant portions of the fanbase (myself included) got won over.

['taterblast]

i hated it for like two seconds because of wanting LittreLL, which is sufficiently hilarious looking back. but i got swayed very quickly after hearing him talk and giving it some rational thought, and eventually realized he was potentially the absolute perfect hire for k-state. high levels of competence, slthyness, adaptability, and friends-with-gene-ness that he won't have any desire to go elsewhere.

[DQ12]

Klanderman and Klein both being legit very good also helped out quite a bit. 

kleiman's stock before the texas tech game last year wasn't pretty, but since then, he's 14-5. 

all in all, looking back, he's been great.

[Dugout DickStone]

I think there were some legitimate questions/concerns to be had with CK (recruiting, different competition levels, what he inherited at NDSU).  But the truth is, I think a lot of people were swept up in the hot midmajor coach du jour who looked kind of like Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights and wanted to feel like big important boys and when we didn't get our way we threw a tantrum and projected.  That was probably my psychology.  "Settling" for the CK "experiment" didn't seem flashy enough.  Felt SLTHy.

Idiotic stuff, but I think that's what happened.  I will say that after the initial disappointment, which lasted probably less than 2-days, the resistant portions of the fanbase (myself included) got won over.

word for word correct except it took me longer to be won over likely because I am not used to being wrong.

[Hurricane Cat]

I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

The only thing that was a sham about it was that Gene had to give the appearance that someone like Seth LittreLL had anything close to the qualifications as Chris Klieman. Absolutely rough ridin' ridiculous that someone, at the time, was 23-17 at North Texas was a better candidate than someone who won 7 consecutive FCS championships. Some of you downgrades we're calling him a D2 coach, as if rough ridin' North Texas was ever a better program than NDSU.

Damn straight, I will not apologize either.