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Title: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 09:51:27 AM
Where you haters at?
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Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 09:54:36 AM
I was a supporter from the start but he honestly hasn't done anything too crazy yet
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:04:26 AM
He’s the 2nd most successful football coach at K-State, he’s bringing in the highest rated recruit oat, and is one game away from a Big 12 Championship game appearance.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1594357547338792962?s=46&t=nNr2rdsrHwDZaLog0lZUxw
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: OK_Cat on November 20, 2022, 10:24:09 AM
Wasn’t Freemaw higher ranked than Avery?


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Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2022, 10:24:11 AM
He’s the 2nd most successful football coach at K-State, he’s bringing in the highest rated recruit oat, and is one game away from a Big 12 Championship game appearance.

That's a depressingly low bar but one he clearly has crossed
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: ben ji on November 20, 2022, 10:26:54 AM
He’s the 2nd most successful football coach at K-State, he’s bringing in the highest rated recruit oat, and is one game away from a Big 12 Championship game appearance.

That's a depressingly low bar but one he clearly has crossed

If I were Klieman I would make a plaque "Second Most Successful Coach in Kstate History" and hang it in my office to show recruits.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:31:50 AM
Definitely would!
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 20, 2022, 10:34:24 AM
Coach getting paid millions to win games, wins games (more times than not).

Amazing!   :love:

Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:41:26 AM
Nobody gets more butthurt over trolls getting crap talked on back at them over coaching decisions more than ‘Dax.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 20, 2022, 10:43:54 AM
WackyTuck, I'm proud of this house we built and I'm glad that KSUFB Coach Chris Kleiman is doing the job he's paid millions of dollars to do  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:45:38 AM
Thanks for reminding us he gets paid what the market is going for as a D1 P5 coach.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 20, 2022, 10:47:49 AM
I DGAF what other schools pay their coaches.  That's their problem.

Again, I'm very pleased that KSUFBHC Klieman is earning the millions of dollars he's paid  :thumbsup:
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 10:49:49 AM
 :facepalm:
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Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2022, 10:52:07 AM
I was a supporter from the start but he honestly hasn't done anything too crazy yet

Even Matt Campbell made it to a championship game.
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Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 10:53:10 AM
I was a supporter from the start but he honestly hasn't done anything too crazy yet

Even Matt Campbell made it to a championship game.
Exactly
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2022, 10:58:28 AM
I mean there's a very good chance we'll win the Dr Pepper and go to the Sugar bowl. Gloat and party then!
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 20, 2022, 11:03:06 AM
If we beat ku and tcu beats iowa state then I think at that point it is 100% a lock we are going to the sugar bowl, barring some serious skulduggery by the CFP committee
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2022, 11:05:00 AM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2022, 11:13:24 AM
I mean there's a very good chance we'll win the Dr Pepper and go to the Sugar bowl. Gloat and party then!

Yeah, this thread is a bit pre-mature
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Post by: Pete on November 20, 2022, 11:13:42 AM
I think every football coach that wins a conference championship should have a statue at K-State.
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Post by: Pete on November 20, 2022, 11:14:28 AM
It should be a “thing” at K-State to commemorate every conference football championship with a statue.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 20, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
My thoughts, at the time of the hire, was that it had a higher risk of being a total disaster than some of the other candidates given his lack of work at the D1 level but if he could replicate what he did into a D1 model then it would be great.  Based on what has been done so far I think we can safely say this is not a disaster (aka Ron Prince). 

He still has a lot of work to do to get us to the peak Snyder era though.  I am generally pleased and think we are headed in the right direction, he seems to be able to recruit at a high level (not Alabama high but KSU high) which was my biggest concern.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2022, 11:25:43 AM
My thoughts, at the time of the hire, was that it had a higher risk of being a total disaster than some of the other candidates given his lack of work at the D1 level but if he could replicate what he did into a D1 model then it would be great.  Based on what has been done so far I think we can safely say this is not a disaster (aka Ron Prince). 

He still has a lot of work to do to get us to the peak Snyder era though.  I am generally pleased and think we are headed in the right direction, he seems to be able to recruit at a high level (not Alabama high but KSU high) which was my biggest concern.

I don’t think it’s feasible to ever get back to peak Snyder era. 
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 20, 2022, 11:57:37 AM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 12:31:10 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2022, 12:34:08 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
I think being in the final 6 at large teams 50% of the time is too high of a standard.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 12:38:31 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
I think being in the final 6 at large teams 50% of the time is too high of a standard.

Right, but he said "this season." This season would be playoff bubble most years, and that's without getting the conference auto bid. We're going to win 9-11 games this year, that's not going to happen every year or even every other year.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 20, 2022, 12:40:31 PM
My thoughts, at the time of the hire, was that it had a higher risk of being a total disaster than some of the other candidates given his lack of work at the D1 level but if he could replicate what he did into a D1 model then it would be great.  Based on what has been done so far I think we can safely say this is not a disaster (aka Ron Prince). 

He still has a lot of work to do to get us to the peak Snyder era though.  I am generally pleased and think we are headed in the right direction, he seems to be able to recruit at a high level (not Alabama high but KSU high) which was my biggest concern.

I don’t think it’s feasible to ever get back to peak Snyder era.

Why?  We will arguably have an easier path to the playoffs and no real whale in the conference to recruit against.  Peak Snyder is 10 - 11 win seasons, competing for conference championships, and every decade or so being discussed as a National Title contender late into a season. That seems feasible to me.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 20, 2022, 12:47:52 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
I think being in the final 6 at large teams 50% of the time is too high of a standard.

The Athletic did a respective 12-team playoff appearance going back to 1998 (24 years) using the BCS\CFP rankings to seed teams per the new format.  They have us in the playoffs 8 of those 24 years (33%). That is tied for 11th most.

1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2011, 2012, 2014

I see no reason we can't make similar runs in the future. 

Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: cfbandyman on November 20, 2022, 12:57:40 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
I think being in the final 6 at large teams 50% of the time is too high of a standard.

Right, but he said "this season." This season would be playoff bubble most years, and that's without getting the conference auto bid. We're going to win 9-11 games this year, that's not going to happen every year or even every other year.

I would think under the NuNuBig12 w/auto playoff spot any team that is able to get themselves to the CCG, or a shot at it, could consider that a bubble playoff team, and that is probably something a ton of teams (Okie St, Cincy, UCF, TCU, Baylor) would be in the hunt practically yearly if not every other year. I guess it depends on how we do divisions (or lackthereof), and what you consider a bubble team. Texas can still say that with 4 losses with 1 to play. I guess I figure being north of 8/9 wins is going to consistently get you chance of playing in the CCG, and therefore the playoffs. I think to think we couldn't do that is limiting ourselves.
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2022, 01:10:08 PM
I'm pretty happy just winning more games than we lose #smalltimey
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 20, 2022, 01:36:23 PM
I mean there's a very good chance we'll win the Dr Pepper and go to the Sugar bowl. Gloat and party then!

This
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 01:59:21 PM
A lot of prideful anonymous trolls on here who love to talk crap to these guys daily, acting like nothing has been accomplished. I love to see it!
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 20, 2022, 02:48:36 PM
If we lose to Kansas and don't play for a Big 12 title, I will look at this season as a disappointment. I think we will beat them, but we haven't done it yet.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 02:52:41 PM
If we lose to Kansas and don't play for a Big 12 title, I will look at this season as a disappointment. I think we will beat them, but we haven't done it yet.
And when it eventually happens under Klieman, it will be the second greatest achievement under #Kstate head coach in football history. Gene also hired the most likeable head basketball coach in our time as K-State fans. Prop them up!
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 20, 2022, 03:00:37 PM
If we lose to Kansas and don't play for a Big 12 title, I will look at this season as a disappointment. I think we will beat them, but we haven't done it yet.
And when it eventually happens under Klieman, it will be the second greatest achievement under #Kstate head coach in football history. Gene also hired the most likeable head basketball coach in our time as K-State fans. Prop them up!

Oh, I like them both. Never said anything negative about either of them. The fact that missing the championship game would be a disappointment speaks to Kleiman being a good enough coach to set those expectations.
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Post by: CHONGS on November 20, 2022, 03:37:24 PM
A lot of prideful anonymous trolls on here who love to talk crap to these guys daily, acting like nothing has been accomplished. I love to see it!
Quit getting victimized by your imagination.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 03:38:25 PM
Lol. K! :Wha:
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Post by: stunted on November 20, 2022, 03:56:58 PM
Chill there was lots of reason to be skeptical but we still gave him a chance. Can’t say that about the way we treated elite 8 coach oscar
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 04:03:37 PM
Our fan base is still really stupid about how hard it can be to recruit to the middle of nowhere Kansas in 2022. Especially during the NIL experience, but whatever.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 04:06:23 PM
We have actual board members on this blog that stopped watching games after Frank left because of dumb pride and missed 2 big 12 basketball championships during the process.
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Post by: OK_Cat on November 20, 2022, 04:10:52 PM
Klieman has as many Dr Peppers as Ron Prince right now


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Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 20, 2022, 04:11:03 PM
Chill there was lots of reason to be skeptical but we still gave him a chance. Can’t say that about the way we treated elite 8 coach oscar

I’ve probably been the most outspoken about this but I’ll say it again: oscar just needed more time
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Post by: stunted on November 20, 2022, 04:37:36 PM
Just look at how much oscar coached up Nijel Pack, who is really struggling now.
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Post by: CHONGS on November 20, 2022, 04:47:02 PM
Just look at how much oscar coached up Nijel Pack, who is really struggling now.
This is the football board.  You are free to troll the basketball one with stuff like this to your heart's content. 

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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 04:51:58 PM
Chings is so mad :lol:
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Post by: CHONGS on November 20, 2022, 04:59:51 PM
Sure why not
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Post by: EMAWzifried on November 20, 2022, 05:10:51 PM
How sad the Oscar forever dregs have to pollute the football board with their denial and never-ending pity party.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
It’s been 20 years since #Kstate football played an actual big 12 championship game for football. Oscar secured 2 in the last 10. It’s whatever. Go cats! Do what’s necessary to you Virgin owners to make it right.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2022, 05:23:03 PM
my god  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2022, 05:31:52 PM
No gEing I am in general about as reasonably happy with our coaching hire and what he has for the most part done during his nearly 4 seasons as our coach.

I am most happy that we can I think now say we don't need a Snyder to win at K-State, which was for me the fundamental thing he had to prove and has done so

I like getting to 8 wins 3/4 seasons, with a fairly okish excuse for a weird as 2020, which still even featured us coming back and beating OU.

He's also won a bowl game fairly emphatically, that is good too.

If he does beat ku again this week and send us to the Pepper, it's another decent feather in his cap, and if he beats TCU that's a real big feather he can claim, and if we then win the Sugar bowl it'll be quite the season, even with some wtf game, and we can look forward to Will Howard for one more season leading us to many more wins next year. He's got a lot of chances here in the not too distant future to make himself distinguished instead of being a nice but not spectacular coach. I do think the future is fairly bright, and overall we're moving in a good direction, but it may take us a bit yet to get there, we'll see.
Call me small timey but I will be perfectly happy if this is what the average Cat football season looks like for the rest of my life.

I mean we'd make the playoffs more often than not.
I think being in the final 6 at large teams 50% of the time is too high of a standard.

Right, but he said "this season." This season would be playoff bubble most years, and that's without getting the conference auto bid. We're going to win 9-11 games this year, that's not going to happen every year or even every other year.

 :thumbs:
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Post by: Pete on November 20, 2022, 05:35:20 PM
As many of us like to remind out Squawk friends, football conference championships are between 5 and 10 times more significant than basketball conference championships.  Everyone knows this. Thus my insistence that we erect a statue for every coach who ever wins a conference championship in football.  Those achievements are so important to the entire university and community that they deserve to stand above all others for generations to come.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 20, 2022, 05:50:39 PM
my god  :facepalm:
It hasn’t been 20 years?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 20, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
It's just fantastic to watch WackyTuck play every conceivable stereotype about K-State to try and make a point.

Yes it is very hard to recruit to K-State when the head coach only ventures out of the Vanier Football Complex to visit a recruit less than 5 times over a 7 or 8 year period.  Or when that head coach is such a control freak he's making assistants gameplan on Friday night instead of being out at H.S. games recruiting . . . essentially a head coach who hate hate hates the entire concept of recruiting and who wished it was like the olden days when you could recruit a few guys during the season and then pour gas on the recruiting fire for a month or so after the season was over. 

Or it's very hard to recruit to K-State when the perception of the head coach is that he's a very socially awkward dude who whines a lot.





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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 21, 2022, 06:26:07 AM
Good stuff, Dax. Lol.
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Post by: Pete on November 21, 2022, 09:04:37 AM
We are one win away from calling this season a huge success.  Unfortunately, beating KU cannot ensure a hugely successful season by itself, but losing to KU can prevent a hugely successful season by itself.
Title: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 21, 2022, 09:10:13 AM
It’s so hard to recruit to Manhattan!! (WackyTuck)

Don’t care that recruiting wasn’t emphasized (WackyTuck)
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Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 09:11:52 AM
We are one win away from calling this season a huge success.  Unfortunately, beating KU cannot ensure a hugely successful season by itself, but losing to KU can prevent a hugely successful season by itself.

I think it’s two wins away IMO.
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Post by: pissclams on November 21, 2022, 09:14:39 AM
this season has gone about the way i thought it would with the exception of the tulane game.  but right now i really really want to get to ten wins and we can do it.
Title: Apologize to Klieman and Gene in this thread!
Post by: catastrophe on November 21, 2022, 09:14:52 AM
Agreed on 2 wins away. Although EITHER 2 KSU wins or 1 KSU win and 1 TCU win would do it for me.
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Post by: pissclams on November 21, 2022, 09:15:43 AM
We are one win away from calling this season a huge success.  Unfortunately, beating KU cannot ensure a hugely successful season by itself, but losing to KU can prevent a hugely successful season by itself.

I think it’s two wins away IMO.
yup - two more wins
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Post by: Pete on November 21, 2022, 09:15:46 AM
We are one win away from calling this season a huge success.  Unfortunately, beating KU cannot ensure a hugely successful season by itself, but losing to KU can prevent a hugely successful season by itself.

I think it’s two wins away IMO.

Well, obviously 2 wins would be amazing and indisputably a very very successful year, but I will be very happy and grateful to both the Mustang and the Meadowlark if we just beat KU to finish this season out.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 21, 2022, 09:20:52 AM
We are one win away from calling this season a huge success.  Unfortunately, beating KU cannot ensure a hugely successful season by itself, but losing to KU can prevent a hugely successful season by itself.

I think it’s two wins away IMO.

Well, obviously 2 wins would be amazing and indisputably a very very successful year, but I will be very happy and grateful to both the Mustang and the Meadowlark if we just beat KU to finish this season out.
Can we get a shot of T for my guy Pete here?
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Post by: Pete on November 21, 2022, 09:22:15 AM
 :angry:
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Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 09:27:42 AM
Get Pete a #Strivefor9 t-shirt
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 21, 2022, 10:11:36 AM
Start calling them both daddy, fellas.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 21, 2022, 10:14:23 AM
It's a lot easier to read wacky's posts if you just read it in Quagmire's voice.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 21, 2022, 10:17:33 AM
 :lol:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 21, 2022, 10:37:27 AM
If Baylor beats Texas, it doesn't really matter if we beat KU. So the whole 1 win vs 2 wins thing depends on what happens Friday.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 10:41:48 AM
If Baylor beats Texas, it doesn't really matter if we beat KU. So the whole 1 win vs 2 wins thing depends on what happens Friday.


UT isn’t losing to Baylor
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 21, 2022, 10:47:20 AM
UT could lose to anyone. They are not very consistent.
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Post by: michigancat on November 21, 2022, 10:50:02 AM
IMO UT should have cakewalked to Arlington. Heads above the rest of the league, but that Texas Tech loss, woof.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 10:55:48 AM
IMO UT should have cakewalked to Arlington. Heads above the rest of the league, but that Texas Tech loss, woof.

I’m not sure why Sark threw the ball so much, might be playing the long game with recruits etc. They would be playing for the Dr Pepper if they just ran the ball more, their run game is virtually unstoppable.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 21, 2022, 10:57:20 AM
UT could lose to anyone. They are not very consistent.
Definitely. Given that, there is a not terrible chance that we will have secured a Sugar Bowl berth before our game even kicks off.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 21, 2022, 10:59:30 AM
IMO UT should have cakewalked to Arlington. Heads above the rest of the league, but that Texas Tech loss, woof.

I’m not sure why Sark threw the ball so much, might be playing the long game with recruits etc. They would be playing for the Dr Pepper if they just ran the ball more, their run game is virtually unstoppable.
I mean it was pretty stopped during parts of the TCU game and the second half of the KSU game. Robinson is incredible, but you can definitely beat them (or at least wear them down) at the line of scrimmage.
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Post by: nicname on November 21, 2022, 02:17:11 PM
IMO UT should have cakewalked to Arlington. Heads above the rest of the league, but that Texas Tech loss, woof.

I’m not sure why Sark threw the ball so much, might be playing the long game with recruits etc. They would be playing for the Dr Pepper if they just ran the ball more, their run game is virtually unstoppable.
I mean it was pretty stopped during parts of the TCU game and the second half of the KSU game. Robinson is incredible, but you can definitely beat them (or at least wear them down) at the line of scrimmage.

Yes. Their run game is really quite something, but UT beat KSU with the pass, particularly not having an NFL cornerback checking X. Worthy all game and the ancillary benefits that would have provided.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 26, 2022, 10:30:50 PM
Ty friend!
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Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2022, 12:08:09 AM
I have, at times, been a real bad person in reference to both gene and CK. I wish Gene didn’t extend idiot Pete Hughes, but he’s made a lot of good moves outside of continuing to choose white crew neck undershirts.

I’m sorry, Gene. And I’m sorry, CK….
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 01:41:56 AM
As nails as Gene has been with the revenue sports, he's been absolutely horrible with the Olympic sports.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 27, 2022, 09:33:34 AM
Gene has absolutely nailed both revenue sport hires. That's honestly all I care about. Absolute stud! #Daddy
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Post by: Pete on November 27, 2022, 09:40:53 AM
Gene has absolutely nailed both revenue sport hires. That's honestly all I care about. Absolute stud! #Daddy

I was displeased with his extension of oscar, but that's water under the bridge for me now.  I am very pleased with the Mustang.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 27, 2022, 10:15:20 AM
#myguy.

You could tell the win meant a ton to Coach.

https://youtu.be/qMWVc4sAvoQ
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 27, 2022, 10:25:40 AM
As nails as Gene has been with the revenue sports, he's been absolutely horrible with the Olympic sports.
The baseball team is an embarrassment.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 27, 2022, 10:29:22 AM
Stoner boner has talked mad crap on both for years and he automatically goes into hiding during the good times. Seems really hard to pass his litmus test.
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Post by: BW on November 27, 2022, 10:38:24 AM
Well looks like we'll see if he can find a volleyball coach. Fritz is out.

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

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Post by: Pete on November 27, 2022, 11:39:12 AM
I know everyone is pretty set in their opinions on this, and I am for sure a broken record on this point as well, but I am 100% solid in my belief that we could lose every single game in every single sport and I’d be delighted as long as Football and Men’s Basketball win. Similarly, we could win a national championship every year in every sport except for Football and Men’s Basketball, and if those two were not competitive I would want the AD fired.
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Post by: Pete on November 27, 2022, 11:41:21 AM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.
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Post by: nicname on November 27, 2022, 12:17:48 PM
I’m with Pete
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 27, 2022, 12:47:09 PM
Stoner boner has talked mad crap on both for years and he automatically goes into hiding during the good times. Seems really hard to pass his litmus test.

Still one win to go.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 27, 2022, 12:54:25 PM
K-State has the minimum number of sports to be considered full time D1. 

K-State spends $80 plus million a year on the minimum number of sports.  Being good in the major sports and a couple of Olympic sports/baseball should always be achieved.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 02:40:13 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 02:43:52 PM
K-State has the minimum number of sports to be considered full time D1. 

K-State spends $80 plus million a year on the minimum number of sports.  Being good in the major sports and a couple of Olympic sports/baseball should always be achieved.

The athletic departments that win in basketball and football are also really good at other sports, it's not an accident. You absolutely cannot be good in football and basketball without having an excellent athletic department. Excellence in revenue sports never has and never will exist in a vacuum.
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 27, 2022, 02:50:27 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
We should push all of our chips in on track and field and find a way to cheat at it. Sucks they only get like 50% scholarships there. That’s why my bro chose ULM, because they got him to full between cross country and track.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 27, 2022, 02:56:21 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
We should push all of our chips in on track and field and find a way to cheat at it. Sucks they only get like 50% scholarships there. That’s why my bro chose ULM, because they got him to full between cross country and track.

If we are not counting baseball then this for sure.  freaking ku won one in women's.  We have a history and if we get enough decathletes and high jumpers we don't even need to have a dominant sprint program to win a natty.

and MIR is right.  A program doesn't have to trade its olympics to win in the good sports. 
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Post by: nicname on November 27, 2022, 05:04:47 PM
To be fair, if you weren't on the Klieman train from day one, and are/were too pea-brained not to see that Gene hiring Klieman was a gigantic balls move and not the "safe" move many acted like it was, you might be legally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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Post by: CHONGS on November 27, 2022, 05:13:08 PM
I liked the hire specifically because it wasn't the safe move.
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Post by: nicname on November 27, 2022, 05:13:49 PM
I liked the hire specifically because it wasn't the safe move.

Everyone knows CHONGS is a massive brain.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2022, 05:15:38 PM
I was all aboard the Seth LittreLL train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 27, 2022, 05:16:56 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
We should push all of our chips in on track and field and find a way to cheat at it. Sucks they only get like 50% scholarships there. That’s why my bro chose ULM, because they got him to full between cross country and track.

If we are not counting baseball then this for sure.  freaking ku won one in women's.  We have a history and if we get enough decathletes and high jumpers we don't even need to have a dominant sprint program to win a natty.

and MIR is right.  A program doesn't have to trade its olympics to win in the good sports.

Yes, all of that, I'd love to just go all in on something and get that off our backs, or win like 8 of them and become crop judging levels good at it
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Post by: nicname on November 27, 2022, 05:17:53 PM
I was all aboard the Seth Latrell train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

I’ve turned. I’m excited. Big balls by GT if true and a huge gamble. I also like big boy football and that’s what we’d play if we hire Klieman.

 :cool: u digg?
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 05:41:58 PM
I was all aboard the Seth LittreLL train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

Do it, so I can arrive stunt on you hoes, again.
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Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2022, 06:10:01 PM
I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 27, 2022, 06:59:38 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
We should push all of our chips in on track and field and find a way to cheat at it. Sucks they only get like 50% scholarships there. That’s why my bro chose ULM, because they got him to full between cross country and track.

If we are not counting baseball then this for sure.  freaking ku won one in women's.  We have a history and if we get enough decathletes and high jumpers we don't even need to have a dominant sprint program to win a natty.

and MIR is right.  A program doesn't have to trade its olympics to win in the good sports.

Yes, all of that, I'd love to just go all in on something and get that off our backs, or win like 8 of them and become crop judging levels good at it
I think the point is that everyone can be on board with lobbying the AD to do a better job with the non-revenue sports, but many fans (myself included) would never want to fire an AD if we were having success in FB and BB—regardless of everything else.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 27, 2022, 07:01:11 PM
I was all aboard the Seth Latrell train and there is a massive thread of receipts to prove most everyone else was too. Tread lightly or I’ll ask Lib 7 to start digging it up.

I’ve turned. I’m excited. Big balls by GT if true and a huge gamble. I also like big boy football and that’s what we’d play if we hire Klieman.

 :cool: u digg?
I’ve said it a few times already, but jmarks’ anti-Litrell thread turned me onto Kleiman.
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Post by: Pete on November 27, 2022, 08:28:01 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.
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Post by: chum1 on November 27, 2022, 08:36:11 PM
Gene needs to apologize to all of us for trying to hire LittreLL.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 11:23:45 PM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.

It wasn't people, it was me. Neither me nor the two other people who took exception to how he's handling baseball indicated that Gene was a bad AD or should be fired because of it. For someone not wanting to belabor a very radical point, you sure seem to find ways to clumsily shoehorn that point fairly frequently. We know you don't care for any sports other than football and men's basketball.

Gene, like every other person with a job ever, will have the totality of his job judged and evaluated. If he has the success in football and basketball you want, he's almost certainly going to have success in other sports as well because he's a good athletic director. You can definitely be like 3/4 of all college sports fans and just worry about those two other sports without constantly telling us about it.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2022, 11:25:14 PM
Gene needs to apologize to all of us for trying to hire LittreLL.

He didn't tho. If he offered that chaw chomping red dirt downgrade the job, he would have sprinted to Manhattan.
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Post by: Pete on November 28, 2022, 12:14:02 AM
Put another way, I hope all of our non-football/men’s basketball student athletes go pro in something other than sports and live very fulfilling and joy filled lives, but I could not give a rat’s ass about their sporting careers at KSU or elsewhere.

Why is this relevant or even a concern? Sucha weird train of thought, it isn't a zero sum game. Having respectable women and Olympic sports don't come at the detriment of football and basketball. I'd think K-State grads and fans would want us to win a national champion at something at some point, God knows it's not happening in football.
It is relevant because in response to praise for the job Gene has done with football and basketball people posted complaints about non revenue sports and those complaints are meritless because non revenue sports should not be a part of the evaluation of the effectiveness of an AD.

It wasn't people, it was me. Neither me nor the two other people who took exception to how he's handling baseball indicated that Gene was a bad AD or should be fired because of it. For someone not wanting to belabor a very radical point, you sure seem to find ways to clumsily shoehorn that point fairly frequently. We know you don't care for any sports other than football and men's basketball.

Gene, like every other person with a job ever, will have the totality of his job judged and evaluated. If he has the success in football and basketball you want, he's almost certainly going to have success in other sports as well because he's a good athletic director. You can definitely be like 3/4 of all college sports fans and just worry about those two other sports without constantly telling us about it.
You are not the boss of me.
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Post by: DQ12 on November 28, 2022, 08:01:19 AM
I only like the two big ones (and bass fishing + soil/crop judging) too, Pete.  Gene is checking every box for me.
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Post by: Cire on November 28, 2022, 01:41:09 PM
I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 28, 2022, 02:29:01 PM
I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.

Same.  I even mumped around with neil brown.  happy to be dumb
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Post by: DQ12 on November 28, 2022, 02:55:16 PM
I was very much on the Seth train.  Glad to be an idiot.

Same.  I even mumped around with neil brown.  happy to be dumb
I liked'em all really.  Norvell too.

Gene knew better.  That's why they call him the Gene-ius.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2022, 03:23:52 PM
We just all wanted Snyder’s dusty ass to be gone so bad we fell for the first piece of ass that got thrown our way.
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Post by: Fedor on November 28, 2022, 03:32:24 PM
No need for me to apologize.  While I was not overly enthusiastic, I know the Klie-man won multiple championships as both coordinator and head coach.  Most importantly the success continued after he ascended so it was likely he was the secret sauce all along.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2022, 03:44:01 PM
I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

The only thing that was a sham about it was that Gene had to give the appearance that someone like Seth LittreLL had anything close to the qualifications as Chris Klieman. Absolutely rough ridin' ridiculous that someone, at the time, was 23-17 at North Texas was a better candidate than someone who won 7 consecutive FCS championships. Some of you downgrades we're calling him a D2 coach, as if rough ridin' North Texas was ever a better program than NDSU.
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Post by: DQ12 on November 28, 2022, 04:01:42 PM
I think there were some legitimate questions/concerns to be had with CK (recruiting, different competition levels, what he inherited at NDSU).  But the truth is, I think a lot of people were swept up in the hot midmajor coach du jour who looked kind of like Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights and wanted to feel like big important boys and when we didn't get our way we threw a tantrum and projected.  That was probably my psychology.  "Settling" for the CK "experiment" didn't seem flashy enough.  Felt SLTHy.

Idiotic stuff, but I think that's what happened.  I will say that after the initial disappointment, which lasted probably less than 2-days, the resistant portions of the fanbase (myself included) got won over.
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Post by: 'taterblast on November 28, 2022, 04:06:28 PM
i hated it for like two seconds because of wanting LittreLL, which is sufficiently hilarious looking back. but i got swayed very quickly after hearing him talk and giving it some rational thought, and eventually realized he was potentially the absolute perfect hire for k-state. high levels of competence, slthyness, adaptability, and friends-with-gene-ness that he won't have any desire to go elsewhere.
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Post by: DQ12 on November 28, 2022, 04:14:08 PM
Klanderman and Klein both being legit very good also helped out quite a bit. 

kleiman's stock before the texas tech game last year wasn't pretty, but since then, he's 14-5. 

all in all, looking back, he's been great.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 28, 2022, 04:36:49 PM
I think there were some legitimate questions/concerns to be had with CK (recruiting, different competition levels, what he inherited at NDSU).  But the truth is, I think a lot of people were swept up in the hot midmajor coach du jour who looked kind of like Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights and wanted to feel like big important boys and when we didn't get our way we threw a tantrum and projected.  That was probably my psychology.  "Settling" for the CK "experiment" didn't seem flashy enough.  Felt SLTHy.

Idiotic stuff, but I think that's what happened.  I will say that after the initial disappointment, which lasted probably less than 2-days, the resistant portions of the fanbase (myself included) got won over.

word for word correct except it took me longer to be won over likely because I am not used to being wrong.
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Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 28, 2022, 07:39:47 PM
I was excited about Lulztrell.

Thought that the hiring process was a sham to hire his buddy.  Which it probably still was but glad it is working out.

The only thing that was a sham about it was that Gene had to give the appearance that someone like Seth LittreLL had anything close to the qualifications as Chris Klieman. Absolutely rough ridin' ridiculous that someone, at the time, was 23-17 at North Texas was a better candidate than someone who won 7 consecutive FCS championships. Some of you downgrades we're calling him a D2 coach, as if rough ridin' North Texas was ever a better program than NDSU.

Damn straight, I will not apologize either.