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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3525 on: October 23, 2024, 06:31:35 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

It’s a pretty damn good reason not to vote for Harris.

any candidate you vote for in a presidential election will have some awful people supporting them

Hell, Jill Stein's over here with David Duke's endorsement like "thanks, I guess?"

eff Jill stein but she (politically speaking) told him to eff off, something trump refused to do.

Trump didn’t disavow Duke?
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3526 on: October 23, 2024, 06:44:12 PM »
I think he eventually got bullied into it by his staff but for a while he went with the "I don't know anything about him but I hear he likes me" bit.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3527 on: October 23, 2024, 08:20:14 PM »
Random question on how early voting works.

Say you early vote for Trump and he eats 1 too many big Macs and has a heart attack, or you vote for Harris and she OD's shooting up her mary jane.

What happens? Does the VP candidate (I'm assuming they take over the campaign) just automatically get your vote?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3528 on: October 23, 2024, 11:23:48 PM »
Not that there is a single undecided voter left

https://x.com/jdcmedlock/status/1849268471416438785?s=46


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3529 on: October 24, 2024, 01:14:07 AM »

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3530 on: October 24, 2024, 07:58:15 AM »
Ms Jobs owner/editor of The Atlantic hanging with her 2nd best bud after Kamala




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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3531 on: October 24, 2024, 08:00:44 AM »
Dax, if you don’t like friends of Maxwell and Epstein, I have bad news for you.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3532 on: October 24, 2024, 08:12:15 AM »
Not that there is a single undecided voter left

https://x.com/jdcmedlock/status/1849268471416438785?s=46


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I asked Grok (in regular, not fun, mode) about that post and it said this:

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The information available up to October 24, 2024, indicates that Donald Trump, during an interview on Fox News, initially seemed to suggest he would declassify various files related to events like 9/11 and the JFK assassination, but his response regarding the Jeffrey Epstein files was more ambiguous. Trump appeared to backtrack or at least showed hesitation when it came to declassifying information related to Epstein, citing concerns over potentially affecting people's lives with "phony stuff." However, there's no explicit confirmation from Trump or the interview that he definitively would not declassify the Epstein information.

Therefore, the claim in the X post you referred to, suggesting Trump would declassify other items but explicitly not the Epstein information, might be an oversimplification or misrepresentation of what was actually said. Trump's actual comments on Epstein's files were more about caution rather than an outright refusal. This interpretation aligns with reports on how Fox News initially edited the interview to potentially present Trump in a more favorable light regarding his stance on declassification, especially concerning sensitive or controversial figures like Epstein.

Given this context, while Trump showed reluctance and ambiguity about declassifying Epstein-related documents, stating he would not do so might not fully capture the nuance of his response during the Fox interview.



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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3533 on: October 24, 2024, 08:15:06 AM »
To be clear tho, Trump does not want you to have unfiltered access to the Epstein information. That is indisputable.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3534 on: October 24, 2024, 08:31:32 AM »
I think describing the US as "reacting" in Vietnam is to get the story completely backwards.

Choosing to call all in on Vietnam is not a reaction to events on the ground and perceptions of what would occur?  The domino theory wasn't a reaction?

Choosing to install multiple puppets as S. Vietnamese leaders was an organic decision?

Okay . . .

I think if you start trying to understand what happened in Vietnam with the actions of Eisenhower, Kennedy or LBJ and you take all of the Dulles brothers propaganda at face value you will miss 100 years of colonialism that seems pretty relevant.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3535 on: October 24, 2024, 09:03:33 AM »
Dax, if you don’t like friends of Maxwell and Epstein, I have bad news for you.
I already know the bad news CNS, thanks

The family is none too pleased with The Atlantic right now.

Unfortunately #blueanon/#blueanongE is easily manipulated and can be made to believe anything as long as it’s anti-Trump


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3536 on: October 24, 2024, 09:07:30 AM »
I think describing the US as "reacting" in Vietnam is to get the story completely backwards.

Choosing to call all in on Vietnam is not a reaction to events on the ground and perceptions of what would occur?  The domino theory wasn't a reaction?

Choosing to install multiple puppets as S. Vietnamese leaders was an organic decision?

Okay . . .

I think if you start trying to understand what happened in Vietnam with the actions of Eisenhower, Kennedy or LBJ and you take all of the Dulles brothers propaganda at face value you will miss 100 years of colonialism that seems pretty relevant.
Sigh . . . we reacted just like we always do when we feel our geo-Strategic position is threatened. The analogy here of course, is we’ve gone around the globe war’ing and brought the world to the brink of nuclear Armageddon. But we lose our mind and do more war’ing when another country doesn’t like it when we’re trying to park NATO in their back yard   


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3537 on: October 24, 2024, 09:58:59 AM »

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3538 on: October 24, 2024, 10:36:50 AM »
In other news. I believe we can firmly establish that Kamala Harris spewed nothing but nonsensical frontier gibberish in her 60 minutes interview and that is why CBS edited it and refuses to release the full unedited transcript.

In turn this makes it fully understandable why her staffers were trying to throw in the towel when she was on Fox and why she raged out on her staff when they forced her to kinda sorta do more interviews.

about that...

Agreed that any candidate that has to have any portion of their interview edited out is a total dunce.  COMMON GROUND!

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3539 on: October 24, 2024, 11:32:37 AM »
John Kelly - Board of Directors - Acuity International

Acutiy International and it's former entities and current sub - entities: crap loads of Federal contracts, many awarded under the Biden Administration (also allegations over the years of bribery of foreign officials etc. etc. all the usual suspect Washington insider grifter stuff that you'll see from an enterprise created by a DC investment/VC firm with all kinds of ex government and military employees and Washington insiders on the payroll)

Fully engaged in the UkroGrift

https://events.stability-operations.org/ukraine2024/

It just never ends . . .  :lol:


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3540 on: October 24, 2024, 01:13:32 PM »
Kind of wild story. Tom Halperin says a story, that he doesn’t believe is true, but would “end Trump’s” campaign” if it were true, has circulated to at least one major news outlet.

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-halperin-says-hes-been-pitched-story-that-could-end-trumps-campaign-1973637
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3541 on: October 24, 2024, 01:31:05 PM »
I liken that to the Walz took a teenager to see Cats and a gay bar story maga tried to fire up and it fizzled

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3542 on: October 24, 2024, 01:49:58 PM »
https://x.com/dwdavison/status/1849522020913999980

I very much think the Harris campaign needs to pick 2-3 things to say about Trump and 2-3 things they want to say about the agenda and stick with those.

It is a little late in the game to be throwing so many random things against the wall. Both sides are clearly kind of panicking and not confident at all about their position in the race.

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« Reply #3543 on: October 24, 2024, 02:08:54 PM »
KH’s hubbies ex GF is singing about what an abusive turd he was. 

Time to roll out the 30 year old no witness stories with dubious timelines

#onbrand

Edit: Oh and the ol “I heard a story” routine is now back in play.




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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3544 on: October 24, 2024, 02:16:34 PM »
Dax, do you care about shitty spouses or not?  This is all getting very confusing. 

Gotchas don't gotcha in one direction only.  They hold no value unless they hold value.

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« Reply #3545 on: October 24, 2024, 02:25:13 PM »
Dax, do you care about shitty spouses or not?  This is all getting very confusing. 

Gotchas don't gotcha in one direction only.  They hold no value unless they hold value.
I dont care about those kinds of stories unless they’re timely and verified.  You missed the point entirely.

What you should be concerned about is a #neocon war profiteer trying to protect the gravy train of perpetual war.

As an aside- that sponsorship list in the link I posted about acuity used to trigger the prior iterations of #blueanon hard, bro




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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3546 on: October 24, 2024, 02:57:58 PM »
Kind of wild story. Tom Halperin says a story, that he doesn’t believe is true, but would “end Trump’s” campaign” if it were true, has circulated to at least one major news outlet.

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-halperin-says-hes-been-pitched-story-that-could-end-trumps-campaign-1973637

There is absolutely nothing that could happen that would even affect his campaign at this point.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3547 on: October 24, 2024, 03:14:10 PM »
Kind of wild story. Tom Halperin says a story, that he doesn’t believe is true, but would “end Trump’s” campaign” if it were true, has circulated to at least one major news outlet.

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-halperin-says-hes-been-pitched-story-that-could-end-trumps-campaign-1973637

There is absolutely nothing that could happen that would even affect his campaign at this point.
Agree. He’s unstoppably lord of MAGAs. None can dethrone him.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3548 on: October 24, 2024, 03:14:34 PM »
I wonder why Milley is anti-Trump.

Guess who is partnered with BlackRock in the UkroGrift.








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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3549 on: October 24, 2024, 03:23:51 PM »
Milley is anti-Trump because he's pro-America.