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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2150 on: August 20, 2024, 05:18:05 PM »



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This is dead on, btw. The price controls rollout is something you'd expect to see from someone like me on twitter or a message board and not a real life policy position rolled out with such fanfare. The campaign effed this up.


Of course the irony here is that dax sees supporting a candidate while offering critiques of said candidate as a sign of weakness. Meanwhile trump's campaign is a disaster in absolute freefall, but he still can't find the slightest thing to be critical about.

First of all, when in the eff have I ever said criticizing a candidate you support is a "sign of weakness"?  I can't ever recall saying that, but if I did, it was a stupid thing to say. I don't pay much attention to the mechanism of campaigns and I pay very little attention to the polling. 

What I do know and do pay attention to is that the #neocons are chomping at the bit to keep the status quo in the White House and keep Trump out. What makes that super weird to me is that Trump isn't going to lower the defense budget a dime, it will be the exact opposite. But what they have no tolerance for is any sign of the U.S. rolling back on being a global hegemonic entity, even though a Trump administration will deliver ever penny they need to be just that. It's just that these penile challenged low self esteem neocons cannot tolerate the idea of the U.S. not having a military presence in every hell hole around the globe, and the still harbor the delusion that Vlad Putin is going to send 10,000 tanks through the Fulda Gap, when Ukraine tells us again and again that first world on first world is DOA.

Harris' economic ideas are a rough ridin' disaster, and trying to price fix the most complicated and technically adept agriculture production and end product delivery system in the world will be not only be the death knell for the  independent family farm, it will cause consolidation across that sector of the likes never seen before in modern US economic history.  Living a full oligarchical corporations in control who will then openly fund the most disastrous border policy in our history to achieve Lick's horned up desire of Bahrain/UAE America.

Her energy plan is nothing short of diabolically insane and cannot and will not sustain our economy, and her platform changes are nothing more than window dressing to appear to be moving back towards the center for election purposes only. 

That's just a short list.






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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2151 on: August 20, 2024, 05:55:12 PM »
Damn, MIR struck a nerve.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2152 on: August 20, 2024, 06:52:28 PM »
#blueanongE: We’re just here to gE

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2153 on: August 20, 2024, 06:53:29 PM »
The gaslightenest grifters that ever grifted




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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2155 on: August 20, 2024, 07:21:57 PM »
I'd need to know more about her anti-price gouging policy to decide how stupid it is. I think it probably ends up being in line with the price gouging laws already on the books in just about every state that only apply to emergencies or periods of extreme market volatility and that it probably doesn't end up helping anything or harming anything.

It's stupid because price gouging, particularly with groceries is not a thing. We had a global pandemic that was a contributing factor in supply chain issues. We then had inflation, caused by both Trump and Biden administrations pouring far too much money into the economy in an attempt to recover from the pandemic. Yes, businesses aren't forgoing their profits during this time of consumer strain, but that isn't price gouging.

There are a number of metrics that actually show otherwise.


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2156 on: August 20, 2024, 07:41:09 PM »
Oh please link the insanity, DeflectoLick


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2157 on: August 20, 2024, 07:47:15 PM »
I can't really tell what LN is doing here but I'm curious to see what he's got
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2158 on: August 20, 2024, 07:58:01 PM »
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/03/ftc-releases-report-grocery-supply-chain-disruptions

food retailers’ profit margins rose between 2020 and 2023 and remain elevated today, suggesting that companies used the temporary rise in the cost of their inputs as a pretext for jacking up not just prices but profits

Looking at publicly available census data, the FTC found that food and beverage retailers’ markup percentages (the amount of money companies made over and above their total costs) rose in 2021, 2022, and into 2023, from just over 5% to 7%.


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2160 on: August 20, 2024, 08:00:08 PM »
LMAO


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2161 on: August 20, 2024, 08:01:57 PM »
I can see the champagne bottles popping now.

Hey guys our net margins “went up” to 6%!!!


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2162 on: August 20, 2024, 08:02:58 PM »
Price gouging is a pejorative term used to refer to the practice of increasing the prices of goods, services, or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair by some. This commonly applies to price increases of basic necessities after natural disasters.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2163 on: August 20, 2024, 08:05:24 PM »
I can see the champagne bottles popping now.

Hey guys our net margins “went up” to 6%!!!


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For Walmart that is roughly 5.3 billion dollars of additional profit

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2164 on: August 20, 2024, 08:06:26 PM »
The governments own statistics repeatedly shows that the margins in the food supply ecosystem are razor thin and there’s nothing even remotely resembling “price gouging”


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2165 on: August 20, 2024, 08:09:11 PM »
I can see the champagne bottles popping now.

Hey guys our net margins “went up” to 6%!!!


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For Walmart that is roughly 5.3 billion dollars of additional profit
You completely avoided the whole destroying of the independent family farm and the consolidation point that I made. Which only helps entities like Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart says bring on price fixing, we’ll buy up every rough ridin' thing and absolutely dominate 


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2166 on: August 20, 2024, 08:13:52 PM »
Between 2021 and 2022, the food and beverage industry recorded more than $155 billion in profits, according to Forbes. Nestlé, the world’s largest food company, increased its gross profits last year by almost 3 percent to $46 billion. Cargill recorded a 23 percent jump in revenue last year to $165 billion—$6.68 billion of which was profit. Tyson Foods, the largest meat producer in the U.S., nearly doubled its profits in the first quarter of 2022 due to soaring meat prices.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2167 on: August 20, 2024, 08:17:32 PM »
LMAO


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2168 on: August 20, 2024, 08:25:28 PM »
salient counterpoint

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2169 on: August 20, 2024, 08:29:34 PM »
Again, your expectation that these entities break even or lose money is insane.

Nothing you brought up is even remotely indicative of “price gouging”

The entities you mentioned will dominate it all in the scenario you desire. 


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2170 on: August 20, 2024, 08:37:35 PM »
Aren't a bunch of you hayseeds from cow people?  I thought I heard a news story last year about how high beef prices have gone, but that due to something like 80% of processing being in the hands of something like 3 companies, the prices the farmers were seeing was relatively the same and most of the increase was due to that 80% just raising prices because they wanted to.  I have one irl friend that is a cow person and he said his fam didn't really see much more than normal.  Obviously, one cow person is only one cow person. 

So, cow seeds, what do you think? 

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2171 on: August 20, 2024, 08:52:00 PM »
I've worked for a billion+ revenue CPG food mfg the last half decade and have not seen margins increase, the opposite actually. Everything I've seen in my career suggests that even in a marketplace with only a handful of players, they would cut their own grandmothers throat to gain market share.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2172 on: August 20, 2024, 08:56:03 PM »
Lil Jon lol
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« Reply #2173 on: August 20, 2024, 09:58:33 PM »
Man, are Michelle and Barack the best public speaking couple in all of history?
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« Reply #2174 on: August 20, 2024, 10:01:57 PM »
Aren't a bunch of you hayseeds from cow people?  I thought I heard a news story last year about how high beef prices have gone, but that due to something like 80% of processing being in the hands of something like 3 companies, the prices the farmers were seeing was relatively the same and most of the increase was due to that 80% just raising prices because they wanted to.  I have one irl friend that is a cow person and he said his fam didn't really see much more than normal.  Obviously, one cow person is only one cow person. 

So, cow seeds, what do you think?
Yes and what LickDerp wants ratchets that up exponentially.

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