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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #175 on: January 31, 2022, 04:25:01 PM »
Married Daryl Hannah, pretty good pull for such an uggo dude

Exploited maga nitwits for a renewed relevancy, also pretty good

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #176 on: January 31, 2022, 04:31:41 PM »
It's too bad he pulled himself off of Spotify so I can't listen to all of these songs people are recommending.

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This right here.  I got YouTube Premium and it removes all the ads from YouTube in addition to giving me YouTube Music.  Win-Win.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #177 on: January 31, 2022, 04:35:52 PM »
and I hope Neil Young will remember....maga man is a total hyper puss who loses his his crap over any perceived slight anyhow

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #178 on: January 31, 2022, 04:40:07 PM »
Married Daryl Hannah, pretty good pull for such an uggo dude

Exploited maga nitwits for a renewed relevancy, also pretty good
Yes it is hilarious what people will get in a tizzy about.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #179 on: January 31, 2022, 04:41:32 PM »
Married Daryl Hannah, pretty good pull for such an uggo dude

Exploited maga nitwits for a renewed relevancy, also pretty good
Yes it is hilarious what people will get in a tizzy about.

Like, Neil Young of all people made rogan fans spin out until they are breathless.  What a strange world

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #180 on: January 31, 2022, 04:45:35 PM »
He's been actively trying to piss MAGAs off since the 70s. Check out these song lyrics.

Oh Alabama
The devil fools
With the best laid plan
Swing low Alabama
You got the spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment
Is all that it meant

Alabama, you got
The weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Banjos playing
Through the broken glass
Windows down in Alabama
See the old folks
Tied in white robes
Hear the banjo
Don't it take you down home?

Alabama, you got
The weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Can I see you
And shake your hand
Make friends down in Alabama
I'm from a new land
I come to you
And see all this ruin
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
To help you along
What's going wrong?

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #181 on: January 31, 2022, 05:45:03 PM »
Man, Dax heard that song and decided to move there

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #182 on: January 31, 2022, 05:47:02 PM »
a few shotgun thoughts on this: 

1.  comparing spotify's platform to a concert platform is a little iffy.  spotify is incredibly huge.  1.2 MILLION artists have at least 1000 listens.  185,000 have made at least $1,000 bucks.  870 artists have made at least $1,000,000. in that context, where the platform is being shared with more than a million other people (including charles manson!) i think it's a little dubious that "sharing a platform" with Rogan (or anyone else on spotify) is a sign of implicit support. that said, free market, everyone's free to do what they want etc. etc. etc.

2. this isn't censorship in any meaningful sense.  someone as big and influential as rogan will always have an outlet.

3.  obligatory "i don't listen to rogan" BUT i have listened before.  i think back in 2015 or something he had alex jones on and i was pretty excited about that and gave it a listen to hear alex jones be crazy.  Rogan's not really my cup of tea, mostly because i scratch my "kind of dumb but charming guy talks about stuff" itch from nate bergatze and church of lazlo podcasts.  that said, you don't really have to be a fan or listen to know that rogan is extremely talented at what he does (not that anyone was really disputing that besides dax).

4.  apropos of nothing really, I love spotify and think it's (along with its predecessors/peers) one of the best things that's ever happened to music.  completely revolutionary.  the entire world's catalogue of music available at your fingertips.  what a world.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #183 on: January 31, 2022, 07:01:25 PM »
may have missed it but Southern Man is still an anti maga banger

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #185 on: January 31, 2022, 07:38:34 PM »
 

1.  comparing spotify's platform to a concert platform is a little iffy.  spotify is incredibly huge.  1.2 MILLION artists have at least 1000 listens.  185,000 have made at least $1,000 bucks.  870 artists have made at least $1,000,000. in that context, where the platform is being shared with more than a million other people (including charles manson!) i think it's a little dubious that "sharing a platform" with Rogan (or anyone else on spotify) is a sign of implicit support. that said, free market, everyone's free to do what they want etc. etc. etc.

Why do you think Young singled out Rogan specifically on Spotify specifically?

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #186 on: January 31, 2022, 07:45:30 PM »
 
Why do you think Young singled out Rogan specifically on Spotify specifically?
Because he doesn’t want to share a platform with someone he views as a danger to public health.  Isn’t that what he said?

I don’t have a problem with Young doing what he did. Power to him for sticking up for something he believes in.  I just think the notion that by having your music on spotify you’re implicitly endorsing Rogan’s vaccine views is a pretty big stretch.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #188 on: January 31, 2022, 07:57:06 PM »
 
Why do you think Young singled out Rogan specifically on Spotify specifically?
Because he doesn’t want to share a platform with someone he views as a danger to public health.  Isn’t that what he said?

I don’t have a problem with Young doing what he did. Power to him for sticking up for something he believes in.  I just think the notion that by having your music on spotify you’re implicitly endorsing Rogan’s vaccine views is a pretty big stretch.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #189 on: January 31, 2022, 07:59:46 PM »
 
Why do you think Young singled out Rogan specifically on Spotify specifically?
Because he doesn’t want to share a platform with someone he views as a danger to public health.  Isn’t that what he said?

Do you think that's why he's singling out Spotify and not YouTube? Really?

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #190 on: January 31, 2022, 08:06:54 PM »
 
Why do you think Young singled out Rogan specifically on Spotify specifically?
Because he doesn’t want to share a platform with someone he views as a danger to public health.  Isn’t that what he said?

Do you think that's why he's singling out Spotify and not YouTube? Really?

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #191 on: January 31, 2022, 08:08:00 PM »
Also, if Young performed a concert where Rogan was the headliner, it wouldn't be an endorsement, either. But Young never said having his music on Spotify was an endorsement of Rogan's dumbass views, only dumbass magas made that leap

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #192 on: January 31, 2022, 08:09:54 PM »
Also, if Young performed a concert where Rogan was the headliner, it wouldn't be an endorsement, either. But Young never said having his music on Spotify was an endorsement of Rogan's dumbass views, only dumbass magas made that leap
I kinda made that leap to be fair. But "effectively supporting" is different from "endorsing"

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #193 on: January 31, 2022, 08:10:51 PM »
Oh because Rogan got a big Spotify deal?  I’m not trying to be clever here.  Regardless of Rogan’s spotify deal, I still think it’s a stretch.  No real life person ever thought Neil Young agreed with Rogan on vaccines because Neil Young’s music happened to be available on Spotify.

Like I said, if Young wants to flip Spotify the middle finger for paying out the ass for being the exclusive home of Rogan’s podcast, great.  But the “implicit endorsement” stuff I saw earlier itt seems crazy. 


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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #194 on: January 31, 2022, 08:20:28 PM »
Also, if Young performed a concert where Rogan was the headliner, it wouldn't be an endorsement, either. But Young never said having his music on Spotify was an endorsement of Rogan's dumbass views, only dumbass magas made that leap
I kinda made that leap to be fair. But "effectively supporting" is different from "endorsing"

You’re right.  I misinterpreted what you said.  You were speaking about strict financial support, wires got a little crossed.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #195 on: January 31, 2022, 08:22:39 PM »
Oh because Rogan got a big Spotify deal?  I’m not trying to be clever here.  Regardless of Rogan’s spotify deal, I still think it’s a stretch.  No real life person ever thought Neil Young agreed with Rogan on vaccines because Neil Young’s music happened to be available on Spotify.

Like I said, if Young wants to flip Spotify the middle finger for paying out the ass for being the exclusive home of Rogan’s podcast, great.  But the “implicit endorsement” stuff I saw earlier itt seems crazy.

I think you personally made the “implicit endorsement” leap but Young can definitely profit from listeners Rogan brings to Spotify and send listeners of his own to Spotify (and therefore Rogan). Spotify has a vested interest in bringing listeners to Rogan more than anyone else on the platform - he's the headliner and Young is an opening act. IMO it isn't a leap to not want to profit from or support a company that makes a dumbass anti-vaxxer their highest profile and largest investment (by far) or play a festival featuring Rogan.

Also easy to understand that all the artists still on Spotify aren't endorsing Rogan.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2022, 08:26:49 PM »
Yeah sorry - our posts were back to back.  I didn’t see yours clearing it up before I posted mine going off on your idiotic bullshit the straw man I made up in my dumb Sudafed addled brain.


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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2022, 08:27:09 PM »
Yeah sorry - our posts were back to back.  I didn’t see yours clearing it up before I posted mine going off on your idiotic bullshit the straw man I made up in my dumb Sudafed addled brain.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2022, 08:52:45 PM »
He's been actively trying to piss MAGAs off since the 70s. Check out these song lyrics.

Oh Alabama
The devil fools
With the best laid plan
Swing low Alabama
You got the spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment
Is all that it meant

Alabama, you got
The weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Banjos playing
Through the broken glass
Windows down in Alabama
See the old folks
Tied in white robes
Hear the banjo
Don't it take you down home?

Alabama, you got
The weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track

Oh Alabama
Can I see you
And shake your hand
Make friends down in Alabama
I'm from a new land
I come to you
And see all this ruin
What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
To help you along
What's going wrong?
A little less direct than Southern Man.

Southern man, better keep your head
Don't forget what your good book said
Southern change gonna come at last
Now your crosses are burning fast
Southern man

I saw cotton and I saw black
Tall white mansions and little shacks
Southern man, when will you pay them back?
I heard screamin' and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long? How?


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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #199 on: January 31, 2022, 09:40:02 PM »
I like Neil Young. He writes great songs, has a voice that can break your heart and has some tracks with some pretty righteous anger.

One time when Neil was pissed about his record contract and the record company was pissed at him because Neil wanted to release a country album and they told him to make a rock n roll record, so he made a 25 minute rock a billy album.

So I don’t think this Spotify kerfuffle is really about any first principles or first amendment issues I think it is mostly about Neil Young living his entire adult life with an attitude of telling people he doesn’t like to eff themselves and letting the chips fall where they may.

However you feel about Neil, he’ll leave us helpless.

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