Possible WW3 thread

[sonofdaxjones]

Is Georgia a border state?

You're going to deflectocon the Eff out of this, aren't you.   

Remember when you guys screamed about the Russians coming upon NATO/US bases in Ukraine as being a conspiracy theory?

#blueanonneocon:  Where yesterday and today's claims of conspiracy theory - become today and tomorrows reality

it was more commentary about Russian expansionism not related to the situation in Ukraine and the occupation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia

but whatevs

So when we decide to go to some far off land to install "Democracy" 2,000 pounds of high explosives at a time, that's not expansionism?  I digress (Even worse, we don't install anything but decades long civil wars, death and refugees)

At least you/re tacitly admitting that this whole thing was kicked off my U.S. meddling in Ukraine, and finally the NYT's is rightfully calling it a U.S. backed coup in Ukraine in 2014.

Something that we would never - ever allow to stand on our periphery, and history has proven we're willing to take the world to the brink of WWIII to invoke change.

[LickNeckey]

as it pertains to meddling in Ukrainian politics

did the CIA make Yanukovych not sign the EU association agreement?

did the CIA make the Yanukovych government dismiss the release of Tymoshenko?

[LickNeckey]

the answer to both of those is obviously no

FSB meddling in Ukrainian politics hit a tipping point

there was undoubtedly CIA support in putting a hand on the scale

but they couldn't make hundreds of thousands take to the street for weeks in the freezing cold to demand change

Putin overplayed his hand and lost a vassal state and has been butt hurt since

[sonofdaxjones]

 

You're in absolute deflectocon mode and simply cannot bring yourself to admit that the US State executed a coup d etat in Ukraine.

What does the internal domestic decisions and sovereign right of self determination of a foreign nation have to do with the United States formulating and executing a coup d etat in that nation?

You keep making my point brilliantly.   

[LickNeckey]

what events do you believe led to the Maidan protests?


what do you believe the maidan protestors wanted to achieve?


what role do you believe the CIA played in these protests?

[sonofdaxjones]

the answer to both of those is obviously no

FSB meddling in Ukrainian politics hit a tipping point

there was undoubtedly CIA support in putting a hand on the scale

but they couldn't make hundreds of thousands take to the street for weeks in the freezing cold to demand change

Putin overplayed his hand and lost a vassal state and has been butt hurt since

Hundreds of thousands of people who were receiving support from Western intelligence. 

Again, the NYT is openly stating (finally) it was a US backed coup d etat and you are now melting down about it.

In addition, you are completely leaving out the massive trade implications for the Ukraine vis-a-vis one of its largest trading partners if it entered into the EU agreement, and the fact that many Ukrainians were not at all pleased with the demands the EU was placing on the Ukrainian government.

But alas, that is not even remotely close to being a justification for Vicky Nuland and the #neocons in formulating and executing a coup in Ukraine.

[LickNeckey]

what events do you believe led to the Maidan protests?


what do you believe the maidan protestors wanted to achieve?




*also i would be interested to read the NYT (FAKE NEWS) article you speak of

[sonofdaxjones]

The headline is posted in this blog, it's an easy one for those that know how to use Google.

The Maiden Coup and how it came about is in the eye of the beholder.  But as we find out again and again and again, all the U.S. and Western propaganda when it comes to Ukraine is ultimately exposed as being a tall tale. 

What you cannot do and will never be able to do is justify the United States formulating and executing a coup in a foreign nation.

So you might as well just stop now.

[sonofdaxjones]

The editing after some peoples got pissed off by some words is so NYT's onbrand 

    Published Feb. 25, 2024Updated Feb. 26, 2024, 1:11 p.m. ET

[sonofdaxjones]

That got damn Hungary!!

Oh, you'll agree to let Sweden in, oh okay, here's your fighter planes.   

[LickNeckey]

The editing after some peoples got pissed off by some words is so NYT's onbrand 

    Published Feb. 25, 2024Updated Feb. 26, 2024, 1:11 p.m. ET

So no link?

[sonofdaxjones]

Man you’re lazy AF


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

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[sonofdaxjones]

Why is the NYT’s editing out words like the “US backed” on an investigative piece that should have already been edited to the n’th degree before publishing?

LMAO


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[Spracne]

Why is the NYT’s editing out words like the “US backed” on an investigative piece that should have already been edited to the n’th degree before publishing?

LMAO


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Blah blah blah.

[LickNeckey]

Man you’re lazy AF


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

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interesting article

"The Ukrainians also helped the Americans go after the Russian operatives who meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

[LickNeckey]

"Mr. Putin had regularly interfered in Ukraine’s political system, handpicking leaders he believed would keep Ukraine within Russia’s orbit, yet each time it backfired, driving protesters into the streets."

[LickNeckey]

"But the Times investigation found that Mr. Putin and his advisers misread a critical dynamic. The C.I.A. didn’t push its way into Ukraine."

[sonofdaxjones]

Man you’re lazy AF


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

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interesting article

"The Ukrainians also helped the Americans go after the Russian operatives who meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

LMAO - some social media posts are not even remotely close to coup’s replete with US backed snipers mowing people down.

Still full fully onboard with disproven conspiracies and election outcome denialism . . . That’s our Lick.

On top of seizing upon the most insignificant talking points as expected.


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[sonofdaxjones]

"But the Times investigation found that Mr. Putin and his advisers misread a critical dynamic. The C.I.A. didn’t push its way into Ukraine."

Uh huh, only giant derps actually believe that.

The Kagan neocons were talking about Ukraine in the 90’s. Believing the CIA just showed up there in 2014 is either outright intellectual dishonesty or being a pinnacle simp brain




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[LickNeckey]

so just so we are clear the article you provided not only doesn't make the point you claimed it did but in fact actively refutes many of the points you are trying to establish


perfect

[LickNeckey]

did you even read the article?

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[sonofdaxjones]

so just so we are clear the article you provided not only doesn't make the point you claimed it did but in fact actively refutes many of the points you are trying to establish


perfect

LMAO, okay Lick. I 1000% expected that response.


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[sonofdaxjones]

did you even read the article?

Lick, if you believe that positioning (for example) that John Brennan flew into Ukraine on a whim and with a kowtowed stance of “we don’t want to make the Russians mad” only to turn around do what they did, I don’t know what to say.

I’ve already discussed the editing and dumbing down of the words.

It’s absolute fact that Vicky Nuland was already talking about who the US wanted to be the replacement in the coup process with Ukrainian opposition, prior to the Maiden coup.






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[sonofdaxjones]

Why is the NYT’s editing out words like the “US backed” on an investigative piece that should have already been edited to the n’th degree before publishing?

LMAO


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Blah blah blah.

#blogkaren bringing it weakly as expected.


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