Possible WW3 thread

[I_have_purplewood]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12822831/Russias-richest-billionaires-including-one-fighting-mega-divorce-settlement-UK-seen-wealth-GROW-30billion-despite-Ukraine-sanctions-laughing-way-bank.html

[sonofdaxjones]

It's a grifters paradise.

Our own DOD can't account for hundreds of billions of dollars worth of equipment and thus the DOD has failed it's 5th or 6th straight audit.  The #neocons in Congress absolutely refuse to allow any real oversight on the equipment and money going to the Ukrogrifters. 

[Pete]

It's a grifters paradise.

Our own DOD can't account for hundreds of billions of dollars worth of equipment and thus the DOD has failed it's 5th or 6th straight audit.  The #neocons in Congress absolutely refuse to allow any real oversight on the equipment and money going to the Ukrogrifters.

I don’t think you’ll find anyone serious who disagrees with the allegation that the UKR is a wildly corrupt country. It’s part of the cost tho. One either agrees with pushing back on Russia, or one does not. 

I agree with pushing back on Russia, and I think it’s worth the money we are spending.  You clearly do not agree that we should not push back on Russia.

It seems we are at an impasse, and that there is likely no near-term reason to think that we will agree.  There is nothing more I can say to change your mind, and there is nothing more you can say to change my mind.

[sonofdaxjones]

Pete, you're a #neocon to your core, and I appreciate that you can admit that.

As the recent WaPo expose on Ukraine hammered home again, you need to be asking just exactly what we are paying nearly a trillion dollars a year for, and getting out of our DOD (besides failed audits)??

A DOD who now has a mouthpiece on The Hill pushing for foreign conscription for citizenship. 

[Dugout DickStone]

literally the best ROI we've ever gotten.

[sonofdaxjones]

Getting 1000's of Ukranians killed for no reason is great ROI . . . uber #neocon #slowdug

(Top it off with outright U.S. military planning and consultative incompetence)

[Dugout DickStone]

Getting 1000's of Ukranians killed for no reason is great ROI . . . uber #neocon #slowdug

(Top it off with outright U.S. military planning and consultative incompetence)

here is the thing.  Everyone who matters has already decided the major beta position that somehow ukraine started this is a bitch.  It's over and all the crying in the world won't change what we do. 

If you guy runs on the platform that we should allow russia to do what it wants he gonna get whipped again.  go ahead and find out. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The amazing thing is, is that you actually believe that Don Trump wants to let Russia do whatever they want.  It's also amazing that you think I believe Ukraine started this, they played a hand in it, but your boy the UkroGrifter Zelensky ran for President on making peace with Russia until Boris Johnson showed up one day, and the Ukrainian uber nationalists started threatening him.   

Who told the Europeans to stop buying energy from Vlad Putin?

Who told NATO to start spending more money on their military(s)

Who moved more U.S. troops and equipment closer to Russia? 

Who dramatically increased the U.S. defense budget after the previous administration? 

The only thing Trump did was talk about ending perpetual war, and with the Kagan's et. al. running the show for #blueanon neocon, that was never going to happen.

[Dugout DickStone]

go ahead and run on that.  we can then see how that goes.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'm not running and you're not remotely capable of having an intelligent conversation about this.  It's just gurgling forth about tazed balls, MAGA and incels with you

#slowduggin

Besides you don't have to tell me that the perpetual war #neocons control your movement, I already know that.  It's just part and parcel to the absolute whacka-do-ness of #blueanon/#blueanongE

[Dugout DickStone]

losers lose

[sonofdaxjones]

tapout accepted

[sys]

between not securing multi-year ukraine funding when they had both houses of congress blowing up in their faces, doing whatever weird triangulation they're trying to do with israel/palestine, letting the houthis and iran attack us wo meaningful response and so far letting venezuela do whatever they're trying to do with guyana this seems like a new foreign policy low for biden's admin.

weird how being weak and rudderless hasn't worked out great yet.

[sonofdaxjones]

They’re all clowns. I just read some of Jake’s old emails on Wikileaks and he was nothing but a frat boy ass kisser for Uber #neocon Hillary “we came we saw he died” Clinton.

Blinks is a buffoon driving an agenda from the hardest core #blueanon puppet masters.

#clowncar

[bucket]

between not securing multi-year ukraine funding when they had both houses of congress blowing up in their faces, doing whatever weird triangulation they're trying to do with israel/palestine, letting the houthis and iran attack us wo meaningful response and so far letting venezuela do whatever they're trying to do with guyana this seems like a new foreign policy low for biden's admin.

weird how being weak and rudderless hasn't worked out great yet.

I feel like if the Israel/Hamas war doesn't grow into a bigger regional war then it was a success in some ways.

[Kat Kid]

between not securing multi-year ukraine funding when they had both houses of congress blowing up in their faces, doing whatever weird triangulation they're trying to do with israel/palestine, letting the houthis and iran attack us wo meaningful response and so far letting venezuela do whatever they're trying to do with guyana this seems like a new foreign policy low for biden's admin.

weird how being weak and rudderless hasn't worked out great yet.

Since Afghanistan withdrawl has been pretty much a never-ending series of disasters.
(although you would put that in the disaster category as well)

Blinken and Kirby are total jokes and Biden can't stay on script (or can't remember it). Here's hoping for Burns (our actual SoS) working some magic in Qatar, but I don't think he has enough power to get the Israelis to not just proceed with their plan to demolish Gaza while pushing the Gazans in to Egypt (while killing thousands of kids as well as targeting journalists and Dr.'s along the way).

[Kat Kid]

between not securing multi-year ukraine funding when they had both houses of congress blowing up in their faces, doing whatever weird triangulation they're trying to do with israel/palestine, letting the houthis and iran attack us wo meaningful response and so far letting venezuela do whatever they're trying to do with guyana this seems like a new foreign policy low for biden's admin.

weird how being weak and rudderless hasn't worked out great yet.

I feel like if the Israel/Hamas war doesn't grow into a bigger regional war then it was a success in some ways.

It would be better than the alternative, but MBS is going to come out of this thing as king of the region.  I bet MBS and Israel are playing pretty close attention to how we handle our good friend India trying to run hits in the US on Sheiks, because I'm sure they both have target lists ready to go and the will to do it if they think they can get away with it. What great allies we have!

[sys]

I don't think he has enough power to get the Israelis to not just proceed with their plan to demolish Gaza while pushing the Gazans in to Egypt (while killing thousands of kids as well as targeting journalists and Dr.'s along the way).

pretty sure we disagree on in which direction we think the biden admin has been misguided, but regardless, trying to play it down the middle hasn't achieved much.

[Kat Kid]

I don't think he has enough power to get the Israelis to not just proceed with their plan to demolish Gaza while pushing the Gazans in to Egypt (while killing thousands of kids as well as targeting journalists and Dr.'s along the way).

pretty sure we disagree on in which direction we think the biden admin has been misguided, but regardless, trying to play it down the middle hasn't achieved much.

horseshoe theory on from the river to the sea?

My actual thoughts on it are pretty much unchanged from my long post earlier it is just very clear that Israel has no strategic thinking about what to do when the war is over or has some extremely dark strategic thinking. Either should be completely unacceptable to the US and western partners who continue to treat Israel with kid gloves as they pretty much reject any compromises. 

Today the PA was trying to work up just the most basic logistical solutions for Gaza and to at least keep pretending that there would be the potential for a two state solution and Netanyahu told them to eff off and that the PA or UN will never be in charge of Gaza only the IDF.

[Cire]

God damn. Frontline 20 days in Mariupol is gutting

The gop is completely complicit in the murder of Ukrainian citizens.


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[Pete]

God damn. Frontline 20 days in Mariupol is gutting

The gop is completely complicit in the murder of Ukrainian citizens.


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That’s a glass half empty view in the eyes of fascists.  What was gambled for was the chance to spread the non-gay-loving governmental church building macho Camacho cult of Putin to new souls. 

[sys]

horseshoe theory on from the river to the sea?

My actual thoughts on it are pretty much unchanged from my long post earlier it is just very clear that Israel has no strategic thinking about what to do when the war is over or has some extremely dark strategic thinking. Either should be completely unacceptable to the US and western partners who continue to treat Israel with kid gloves as they pretty much reject any compromises. 

Today the PA was trying to work up just the most basic logistical solutions for Gaza and to at least keep pretending that there would be the potential for a two state solution and Netanyahu told them to eff off and that the PA or UN will never be in charge of Gaza only the IDF.

not sure if your horseshoe theory references you and i, the american left and right or israel and palestine.  if the latter, then yeah.  that's pretty much the crux of the issue.  both sides want to at worst exterminate or at best relocate the other ethnic/religious group and the talk of a fancy multicultural one state or peaceful two state solutions by western supporters (of either) is little more than willful ignorance to avoid interrogating the aims of those their political tribe have chosen to support. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Some amazing gibberish from sys

[sonofdaxjones]

God damn. Frontline 20 days in Mariupol is gutting

The gop is completely complicit in the murder of Ukrainian citizens.


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That’s a glass half empty view in the eyes of fascists.  What was gambled for was the chance to spread the non-gay-loving governmental church building macho Camacho cult of Putin to new souls.

Yet you’re the dude advocating for the massacre of thousands who have no way to defend themselves and have no control over the Biden facilitated Hamas terrorists.

Your boy (who has never met a war he didn’t want) is playing every side of the fence.

World at War: The Biden Administration (now featuring just saying NO to cease fires)

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1734646057257058494?s=20


https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1733970476567855118?s=20