Possible WW3 thread

[Dugout DickStone]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".

Oh c'mon

[sys]

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1621095382771175426?s=20&t=_-kfJeYJ94HmKLcNldeygg

it seems to me that wagner views their convict brothers in arms as more like ammunition than fellow soldiers.  it's good news to hear that they are at least temporarily experiencing shortages of both artillery shells and slave soldiers.

[sys]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".

Oh c'mon

there are some inherent problems with trying to overlay the ideologies of like, the 30s onto our own, but yeah and it's not even particularly close.

[Dugout DickStone]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".

Oh c'mon

there are some inherent problems with trying to overlay the ideologies of like, the 30s onto our own, but yeah and it's not even particularly close.

I'll bite.  Besides trying to pass a federal law codifying Roe I have to ask, what?

Not tax policy
Not education
Maybe border but I don't think there is even a policy there

[wetwillie]

Name a former president left of Biden ‘stone

[sys]

I'll bite.  Besides trying to pass a federal law codifying Roe I have to ask, what?

Not tax policy
Not education
Maybe border but I don't think there is even a policy there

you have a good point on immigration.  he's to the right of every president except trump and arguably obama on immigration.

[Kat Kid]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".

Oh c'mon

there are some inherent problems with trying to overlay the ideologies of like, the 30s onto our own, but yeah and it's not even particularly close.

I think it is really absurd to imagine Biden passing something like Social Security, Medicare or Title I for the first time. He somehow managed to fumble the CTC after one year. I know other people has said this but it just isn’t true.

[Spracne]

LBJ was pretty damn lefty with the whole civil rights thing.

[sys]

I think it is really absurd to imagine Biden passing something like Social Security, Medicare or Title I for the first time. He somehow managed to fumble the CTC after one year. I know other people has said this but it just isn’t true.

well it's a bit weird to assume his ideology is more aligned with what he was able to pass with a 50:50 senate than what he proposed passing or what he campaigned on, but leaving that aside, yes, it is true that the statement that biden is the most progressive president in u.s. history relies on the movement of the democratic party to the left rather than on biden being on the leftmost vanguard of his party in his time.

[Kat Kid]

Lincoln, the liberator also had this absolute banger:

“Labor is prior to and independent of capital,” the country’s 16th president said. “Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

[Kat Kid]

Double post

[Katpappy]

LBJ was pretty damn lefty with the whole civil rights thing.

I was getting ready to post this same fact.  He was even more left than the peanut farmer.

[sys]

carter wasn't even from the left in his own time.  lbj certainly moved the party to the left, but to argue that his stances were to the left of where biden (and dem party in general) are today is crazy.

[Spracne]

carter wasn't even from the left in his own time.  lbj certainly moved the party to the left, but to argue that his stances were to the left of where biden (and dem party in general) are today is crazy.

Are you being intentionally stupid?

[DaBigTrain]

carter wasn't even from the left in his own time.  lbj certainly moved the party to the left, but to argue that his stances were to the left of where biden (and dem party in general) are today is crazy.

Are you being intentionally stupid?

You should see his posts about crypto.

[sys]

carter wasn't even from the left in his own time.  lbj certainly moved the party to the left, but to argue that his stances were to the left of where biden (and dem party in general) are today is crazy.

Are you being intentionally stupid?

there isn't a single lbj civil rights or great society measure that biden doesn't support and he also supports a ton of policies that push left beyond those limits.

[Kat Kid]

carter wasn't even from the left in his own time.  lbj certainly moved the party to the left, but to argue that his stances were to the left of where biden (and dem party in general) are today is crazy.

Are you being intentionally stupid?

I’m thinking so, but maybe not? Effect the same!

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Good thread about pro-Putin pedophile Scott Ritter.

https://twitter.com/p_kallioniemi/status/1621048526498336768?s=46&t=Rq18RoAvryn0DxLYAfoXLA

[Cire]

Good thread about pro-Putin pedophile Scott Ritter.

https://twitter.com/p_kallioniemi/status/1621048526498336768?s=46&t=Rq18RoAvryn0DxLYAfoXLA

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[sonofdaxjones]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".

LMAO he’s pandering to cliques within the party domestically while being surrounded by neocons on the foreign policy front.

Blinks-Nuland-Sullivan and company are straight from the Kagan/PNAC school. 

Some of the bullshit that rolls iff your keyboard is just so very LOL’able

[sonofdaxjones]

Good thread about pro-Putin pedophile Scott Ritter.

https://twitter.com/p_kallioniemi/status/1621048526498336768?s=46&t=Rq18RoAvryn0DxLYAfoXLA

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[Dugout DickStone]

dang, Ritter is maga as hell.  His talking points sound familiar.  So does his being a convicted pedophile. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The derp brain #neocon simps and their hyper simplistic viewpoints wrapped up in the "for us or again us" mantras of a the bygone days of George W. Bush.   

It's 2001 again in 'Merica - #necons/#neocongE

[BIG APPLE CAT]

while i think sys was just being a silly goose with his musings about biden's political leanings relative to past presidents...i think its also difficult to make a fair comparison because the nature of politics has changed so much in the history of our country. i mean crap, it used to be that if a couple of senators disagreed with each other then they could just bash each other's brains in on the senate floor to figure it out. And the result? Their constituency will respond with "hey i saw your cane got damaged when you smashed that guys skull, here's a new cane for you, keep up the good work!"

my point being the times they are a changin.

[Dugout DickStone]

The derp brain #neocon simps and their hyper simplistic viewpoints wrapped up in the "for us or again us" mantras of a the bygone days of George W. Bush.   

It's 2001 again in 'Merica - #necons/#neocongE

maga Ritter really made your brain flip-out.

Did you mean "for us or against us"?