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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #3650 on: August 29, 2022, 08:21:17 PM »
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Moscow is raking in more revenue than ever with the help of new buyers, new traders and the world’s seemingly insatiable demand for crude

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-confounds-the-west-by-recapturing-its-oil-riches-11661781928

The pro's and adults, tho . . . the pro's and adults.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #3651 on: August 30, 2022, 01:07:43 AM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #3653 on: August 30, 2022, 08:01:03 AM »
No joke. Looks colorized


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« Reply #3655 on: August 30, 2022, 09:51:21 AM »
One of the biggest grifts in history?

O’Donnell said the system had to be tested because Ukrainian officials do their accounting of American equipment with “hand receipts, it’s all paper.” Once equipment gets to Ukraine “I don’t think they have much fidelity” as to where it ends up, he said.

But "as far as we can tell . . ." everything is ending up where it's supposed to go.   :lol: :lol:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/torrent-of-cash-for-ukraine-arms-puts-pentagon-watchdog-on-alert

Ukraine most corrupt country in Europe after Russia
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false

It's no wonder Mumbles henchmen beat down CBS to get them to remove this story . . .

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/g5OgTXkzzLy9/
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #3656 on: August 30, 2022, 02:12:39 PM »
Update:  China still selling crap tons of Russian LNG to Europe at huge mark-ups.  Russian Chinese LNG may allow Europe to get to the 80% storage threshold it needs to avoid potential major cutbacks and rationing.

Vlad Putin is pleased while moving massive amount of product to China.  President Xi is pleased that he has a nice profit center while China's economy stalls.

Good thing we've got those pro's and adults in DC running the show now.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The Biden Administration:  Crushing Europe, enriching China and Russia   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:





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« Last Edit: August 30, 2022, 04:22:54 PM by sys »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #3659 on: August 30, 2022, 04:21:57 PM »
meanwhile, offline it's very hard to find any information on how the offensive is going, but one thing we do know is ukraine is hammering that rough ridin' bridge (no idea what that means tho).

https://twitter.com/malle_mulle/status/1564699060157685763
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« Reply #3660 on: August 31, 2022, 06:01:59 AM »
Russia is using that bridge to supply the front lines there. HIMARS are making that very difficult. They will run out of ammo by it’s the only bridge in that area.


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« Reply #3661 on: August 31, 2022, 05:06:55 PM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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« Reply #3662 on: August 31, 2022, 05:28:40 PM »
couple kinda interesting vids of a ukrainian crew firing an american m777.  from the 29th, i believe, but there's no info divulged about the offensive, just see them firing.

https://twitter.com/Frostilicus_/status/1564625890964824064
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« Reply #3663 on: August 31, 2022, 06:27:11 PM »
It is just so hard to know what to make of anything the western media like FT and NYT are making incredibly modest claims like this “offensive” is only designed to have Russia re arrange their troops and occupy their attention and that the pie in the sky objective is to re-take Kherson but they would settle for just putting Russian occupied areas in the south under threat so they don’t have any easy time doing a referendum and normalizing them like Crimea so they will still be on the front lines.

Kherson is literally right on the front lines now, so if Ukraine can’t retake it, would be a pretty big sign that this thing won’t really amount to much. I think the first domino will be if Russia has to retreat from the West Bank of the Dnipro river. If that happens we can clearly say that Ukraine has some momentum.

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« Reply #3664 on: August 31, 2022, 06:52:16 PM »
couple kinda interesting vids of a ukrainian crew firing an american m777.  from the 29th, i believe, but there's no info divulged about the offensive, just see them firing.

https://twitter.com/Frostilicus_/status/1564625890964824064
Absolute balls of steel to be standing out in a field like that knowing that you could get maimed or killed by counter battery fire at any second. You can feel the tension as they work to take down the gun for transport.

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« Reply #3665 on: August 31, 2022, 07:14:51 PM »
It is just so hard to know what to make of anything the western media like FT and NYT are making incredibly modest claims like this “offensive” is only designed to have Russia re arrange their troops and occupy their attention and that the pie in the sky objective is to re-take Kherson but they would settle for just putting Russian occupied areas in the south under threat so they don’t have any easy time doing a referendum and normalizing them like Crimea so they will still be on the front lines.

Kherson is literally right on the front lines now, so if Ukraine can’t retake it, would be a pretty big sign that this thing won’t really amount to much. I think the first domino will be if Russia has to retreat from the West Bank of the Dnipro river. If that happens we can clearly say that Ukraine has some momentum.

i completely agree that it is very, very difficult to know what is happening, much less what ukraine's intentions are, but i think the preponderance of evidence suggests ukraine's primary goal is to trap and attrit (<- military jargon used like a pro) russian personnel/equipment north/west of the dnipro rather than recapture territory.

which i guess is still kinda six of one half dozen of the other, but i think it probably does suggest something about the speed and nature of what's to come.
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« Reply #3666 on: August 31, 2022, 07:37:35 PM »
It is just so hard to know what to make of anything the western media like FT and NYT are making incredibly modest claims like this “offensive” is only designed to have Russia re arrange their troops and occupy their attention and that the pie in the sky objective is to re-take Kherson but they would settle for just putting Russian occupied areas in the south under threat so they don’t have any easy time doing a referendum and normalizing them like Crimea so they will still be on the front lines.

Kherson is literally right on the front lines now, so if Ukraine can’t retake it, would be a pretty big sign that this thing won’t really amount to much. I think the first domino will be if Russia has to retreat from the West Bank of the Dnipro river. If that happens we can clearly say that Ukraine has some momentum.

i completely agree that it is very, very difficult to know what is happening, much less what ukraine's intentions are, but i think the preponderance of evidence suggests ukraine's primary goal is to trap and attrit (<- military jargon used like a pro) russian personnel/equipment north/west of the dnipro rather than recapture territory.

which i guess is still kinda six of one half dozen of the other, but i think it probably does suggest something about the speed and nature of what's to come.
Interested to hear what the "War on the Rocks" guy's take on all this will be. They haven't released a new podcast since all the new activity around Kherson started. Would be nice if Ukraine could recapture Kherson before the Russians turn it into a smoldering trash heap.

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« Reply #3667 on: August 31, 2022, 07:39:56 PM »
yeah, he hasn't tweeted anything much either.  that i've seen anyway.
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« Reply #3668 on: September 01, 2022, 06:30:29 AM »
The Uks are likely hurting the accuracy of the M777’s by yanking them around all the fields by the barrell.   The US and NATO mainly use helicopters.

Some good old fashioned Ukrainian/Western Intelligence propaganda hitting social media just in time to convince derps that a few billion more and then a few billion more and so and so on will do the trick.

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« Reply #3669 on: September 01, 2022, 06:38:44 AM »
I read that in Kherson ukr is currently rotating fighters and the new fighters have been NATO trained/equipped.

A lot of the guys that have been holding the stalemate are now going to get trained and armed for their next go.

Himars And such are mashing Russia’s logistics as they rearm resupply their guys and they can’t rotate fighters.


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« Reply #3670 on: September 01, 2022, 09:07:57 AM »
The Uks are likely hurting the accuracy of the M777’s by yanking them around all the fields by the barrell.   The US and NATO mainly use helicopters.


Its designed to be roaded that way.  There's a towing lug incorporated into the barrel just short of the end/brake. 

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« Reply #3671 on: September 01, 2022, 09:40:24 AM »
when are they going to do something about these russian windows!?

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« Reply #3672 on: September 01, 2022, 09:46:42 AM »
The Uks are likely hurting the accuracy of the M777’s by yanking them around all the fields by the barrell.   The US and NATO mainly use helicopters.


Its designed to be roaded that way.  There's a towing lug incorporated into the barrel just short of the end/brake.
I know. But NATO lifts them most of the time for a reason.

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« Reply #3673 on: September 01, 2022, 10:36:17 AM »
The Uks are likely hurting the accuracy of the M777’s by yanking them around all the fields by the barrell.   The US and NATO mainly use helicopters.


Its designed to be roaded that way.  There's a towing lug incorporated into the barrel just short of the end/brake.
I know. But NATO lifts them most of the time for a reason.
We all have access to google, Dax.  We know you are just parroting a Russian backed Indian mil blogger who is upset that India bought a bunch of M777's.

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« Reply #3674 on: September 01, 2022, 12:07:45 PM »
The Uks are likely hurting the accuracy of the M777’s by yanking them around all the fields by the barrell.   The US and NATO mainly use helicopters.


Its designed to be roaded that way.  There's a towing lug incorporated into the barrel just short of the end/brake.
I know. But NATO lifts them most of the time for a reason.
We all have access to google, Dax.  We know you are just parroting a Russian backed Indian mil blogger who is upset that India bought a bunch of M777's.
Nope.

Again, there’s a reason that NATO moves these by helicopter unless on improved roads.