Possible WW3 thread

[sys]

if you're talking about military tactics that may or may not be obsolete, which it sounded like michigancat was (ground army), i think it's an important distinction.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

[michigancat]

if you're talking about military tactics that may or may not be obsolete, which it sounded like michigancat was (ground army), i think it's an important distinction.

It's a fair distinction that is what I was really getting at. Like even if they took Kyiv and killed Zelenskyy, then what???

[Kat Kid]

if you're talking about military tactics that may or may not be obsolete, which it sounded like michigancat was (ground army), i think it's an important distinction.

well that is just rude, I try things they just don't always work out because my supply lines run short.

[Kat Kid]

if you're talking about military tactics that may or may not be obsolete, which it sounded like michigancat was (ground army), i think it's an important distinction.

It's a fair distinction that is what I was really getting at. Like even if they took Kyiv and killed Zelenskyy, then what???

I think if they did that the idea would be to install some sort of pro-Russian leader and then gradually draw back forces. Now obviously I think the likelihood of that working now is much lower as Ukraine and the West have rallied around opposing this invasion much more than Putin anticipated.  However, if the new leader was able to restore basic functions of the state and Russia pulled back I think a lot of Ukrainians would take that devil's bargain at least temporarily to end an open conflict.

[ChiComCat]

There are pills you can take for reinforcements KK

[Kat Kid]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

lol

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Unusually large number of high-ranking officers getting themselves killed:

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1501535010909605893?s=20&t=_cLCo6H2n9OSgE9yidrTHQ

[Tobias]

i can’t imagine being one of these tank dudes getting sent off to get melted in a giant coffin

[mocat]

a bunch of fig eaters trying to find reverse in a soviet tank

[yoga-like_abana]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

this was as refreshing as a junior mint

[chum1]

Unusually large number of high-ranking officers getting themselves killed:

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1501535010909605893?s=20&t=_cLCo6H2n9OSgE9yidrTHQ

I've seen talk that this is because they are needing to be closer to the front lines to try to stop the army from sucking so much.

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/lukeharding1968/status/1501556301461172232

[cfbandyman]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

I have been methodically going through every episode of Seinfeld (currently around episode 20 in season 4) since it's on Netflix, when this whole thing started the episode where Newman and Kramer has been on my mind

[waks]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

I have been methodically going through every episode of Seinfeld (currently around episode 20 in season 4) since it's on Netflix, when this whole thing started the episode where Newman and Kramer has been on my mind

Where they play Risk?

[yoga-like_abana]

Wars going to be so easy for kids that grow up playing video games.
"here the controller kid, go knock off some comrades"

[cfbandyman]

I mean I was also thinking of when does old school invading countries with ground armies stop? When was the last time it worked effectively? The US has provided more than enough examples of it not working and we don't even try to invade white countries that garner the sympathy of the entire world.

the invading part has generally worked very well for american armies.  it's the occupying part that hasn't worked.

I have been methodically going through every episode of Seinfeld (currently around episode 20 in season 4) since it's on Netflix, when this whole thing started the episode where Newman and Kramer has been on my mind

Where they play Risk?

lol yeah, thought I typed "Risk" and missed that.

[kim carnes]

I can’t believe there are people in this thread comparing this situation to the Middle East

[Cire]

Unusually large number of high-ranking officers getting themselves killed:

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1501535010909605893?s=20&t=_cLCo6H2n9OSgE9yidrTHQ

I've seen talk that this is because they are needing to be closer to the front lines to try to stop the army from sucking so much.

It's because we have hundreds/a thousand contractors reading their texts and listening to their radios and phone calls in real time and feeding live intelligence to Ukranians.

The Ukranians can set up snipers/ambush's.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Jonah Goldberg interviews Kori Schake about Russia/Ukraine. Very good interview worth your time to listen if you are at all interested in this topic.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unfriendly-skies/id1291144720?i=1000553415789

- what Biden admin has done right / wrong so far (it was a dumb idea to tell/promise the Russians we would never be willing to send troops into Ukraine)
- Jonah asks questions about if this is Nato's fault
- Are other Nato members paying their fair share? this was something that even bugged Eisenhower but US has defaulted to a position of "much cheaper to pay 'more than our fair share' to maintain stability in Europe than pay to sort out full-scale world wars
- Ukraine will eventually rebuild, join Nato and become more prosperous in the aftermath of this
- Chances of Putin using a "battlefield nuke" as he leaves the country is not zero
- US intelligence seems to know what is going on at very high levels in Russia
-best way to deter China is to show resolve against Russia
-due to the nature of its economy, China would have a harder time insulating itself from sanctions than Russia...

[Sandstone Outcropping]

6 million refugees from Syria, 2 million refugees in 2 weeks from Ukraine, bombing apartments, schools and hospitals. This is Putin's idea of what makes his nation/regime look strong and respected? What a vile sack of dogshit. Doing his best to be counted as one of the most detestable humans of all time.

https://twitter.com/lukeharding1968/status/1501556301461172232

[sonofdaxjones]

The refugees in Syria started long before the Russians showed up there.

Libya as well.

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1501617934891896836

[Cire]

NATO did that

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Putin regime is truly Orwellian:
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ”

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1501617934891896836