Supreme Court Cases Thread

[star seed 7]

That's a pretty good distinction

[Kat Kid]

I am shocked more frequently than I should be that grown human beings want education to revolve around myth and legend to put it as kindly as I can. 

Teach morals and values along with math, sure, but those morals and values don't need to be backed by a sky daddy.   It's lazy, and quite frankly, I suspect that religion is a big reason we have such crazy movements like MAGA.  It seems to train people to accept without thinking rationally.  Present unreasonable stories to them, hit them over the head with it for a couple decades, make them wildly guilty and show them what happens to out-group ppl, and then turn them loose on society.  No wonder why people think there is a cabal of children eating pedos in the basement of a local pizza joint, or that crisis actors are acting like their school was shot up so that we can legislate gun control. 

But, by all means, lets rough ridin' do it to every one.  So rough ridin' dumb.

On this case, I think the thing I struggle with is the concept of charter schools more broadly.  They strike me as, essentially, publicly funded private schools.  If you want an alternative education for your kid, that's reasonable.  But it strikes me as odd that we publicly fund that kind of alternative education (apart from, basically, special needs situations).  We have public schools.  We have private schools.  Why do we have these hybrid charter schools?

As an aside, I will say that after thinking about and studying Christianity more, I've found it pretty convincing.  I was less convinced when I hadn't really studied the various arguments.

2 biggest reasons

1) They have enormous special interests backing them because these people hate unions and they are a way to try and break big city teacher's unions.
2) They also are a way for strivers to get a higher quality education for their kids in city school districts because they can exclude all kinds of kids for all kinds of reasons that public schools cannot.

All charters aren't equal and some do provide quality education but they aren't generally a scalable model, especially for a rural state like Kansas

[Stupid Fitz]

I am shocked more frequently than I should be that grown human beings want education to revolve around myth and legend to put it as kindly as I can. 

Teach morals and values along with math, sure, but those morals and values don't need to be backed by a sky daddy.   It's lazy, and quite frankly, I suspect that religion is a big reason we have such crazy movements like MAGA.  It seems to train people to accept without thinking rationally.  Present unreasonable stories to them, hit them over the head with it for a couple decades, make them wildly guilty and show them what happens to out-group ppl, and then turn them loose on society.  No wonder why people think there is a cabal of children eating pedos in the basement of a local pizza joint, or that crisis actors are acting like their school was shot up so that we can legislate gun control. 

But, by all means, lets rough ridin' do it to every one.  So rough ridin' dumb.

It's also hypocrisy of MAGA to a freaking t. "We want less government". "Less government spending". "The constitution is law" "Shall not be infringed". "my kid shouldn't have to learn that in school". "teachers should stick to STEM" (I probably made that last one up as most of these morons have no idea what STEM is)

I support your right to believe and worship any sky wizard you so choose, but keep that crap out of schools and government per the constitution and founding fathers.

Ok but have you considered that the Founding Fathers were actually a bunch of total idiots? (Except in certain cherry picked situations, considering only very narrow interpretations. In those instances they are infallible)

Ha, yes, I'm aware of this possibility. Joe Rogan is a grifting dumbass but he did have a decent joke once. He went on about the founding fathers and then said it would be interesting what they would think of today. He then said the first thing they would say is that, "Wait, you haven't changed that crap in over 200 years!"

[Justwin]

I am shocked more frequently than I should be that grown human beings want education to revolve around myth and legend to put it as kindly as I can. 

Teach morals and values along with math, sure, but those morals and values don't need to be backed by a sky daddy.   It's lazy, and quite frankly, I suspect that religion is a big reason we have such crazy movements like MAGA.  It seems to train people to accept without thinking rationally.  Present unreasonable stories to them, hit them over the head with it for a couple decades, make them wildly guilty and show them what happens to out-group ppl, and then turn them loose on society.  No wonder why people think there is a cabal of children eating pedos in the basement of a local pizza joint, or that crisis actors are acting like their school was shot up so that we can legislate gun control. 

But, by all means, lets rough ridin' do it to every one.  So rough ridin' dumb.

It's also hypocrisy of MAGA to a freaking t. "We want less government". "Less government spending". "The constitution is law" "Shall not be infringed". "my kid shouldn't have to learn that in school". "teachers should stick to STEM" (I probably made that last one up as most of these morons have no idea what STEM is)

I support your right to believe and worship any sky wizard you so choose, but keep that crap out of schools and government per the constitution and founding fathers.

Ok but have you considered that the Founding Fathers were actually a bunch of total idiots? (Except in certain cherry picked situations, considering only very narrow interpretations. In those instances they are infallible)

Ha, yes, I'm aware of this possibility. Joe Rogan is a grifting dumbass but he did have a decent joke once. He went on about the founding fathers and then said it would be interesting what they would think of today. He then said the first thing they would say is that, "Wait, you haven't changed that crap in over 200 years!"

There haven't been any amendments to the Constitution in over 200 years? Wow, you learn something new every day.

[Stupid Fitz]

I am shocked more frequently than I should be that grown human beings want education to revolve around myth and legend to put it as kindly as I can. 

Teach morals and values along with math, sure, but those morals and values don't need to be backed by a sky daddy.   It's lazy, and quite frankly, I suspect that religion is a big reason we have such crazy movements like MAGA.  It seems to train people to accept without thinking rationally.  Present unreasonable stories to them, hit them over the head with it for a couple decades, make them wildly guilty and show them what happens to out-group ppl, and then turn them loose on society.  No wonder why people think there is a cabal of children eating pedos in the basement of a local pizza joint, or that crisis actors are acting like their school was shot up so that we can legislate gun control. 

But, by all means, lets rough ridin' do it to every one.  So rough ridin' dumb.

It's also hypocrisy of MAGA to a freaking t. "We want less government". "Less government spending". "The constitution is law" "Shall not be infringed". "my kid shouldn't have to learn that in school". "teachers should stick to STEM" (I probably made that last one up as most of these morons have no idea what STEM is)

I support your right to believe and worship any sky wizard you so choose, but keep that crap out of schools and government per the constitution and founding fathers.

Ok but have you considered that the Founding Fathers were actually a bunch of total idiots? (Except in certain cherry picked situations, considering only very narrow interpretations. In those instances they are infallible)

Ha, yes, I'm aware of this possibility. Joe Rogan is a grifting dumbass but he did have a decent joke once. He went on about the founding fathers and then said it would be interesting what they would think of today. He then said the first thing they would say is that, "Wait, you haven't changed that crap in over 200 years!"

There haven't been any amendments to the Constitution in over 200 years? Wow, you learn something new every day.

I said he was a dumbass JW.