capitol riot

[Dugout DickStone]

Fanning, the trumpers literally carry American flags with a blue line for cops, but a year ago today they killed one. So, like, your ‘argument’ or whatever isn’t working


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The cops killed a MAGA for taking a selfie, so the count turned out even. All is fair in love and war I guess.

which side does the maga who tazed himself in the wang until he died go on?  does maga get to kill another law enforcement officer to avenge the crank tazer?

[ChiComCat]

I think you can agree with KK's sentiment and still think the rioters should be punished far more harshly

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think you can agree with KK's sentiment and still think the rioters should be punished far more harshly

Sure, there isn't any law against hypocrisy.

[Dugout DickStone]

To be completely fair, each of those total failures who tried to hang pence have such horrible, poor, destitute and overweight lives of desperation that I am not sure there is much the law can do that life and genetics hasn't already done.

[ChiComCat]

I think you can agree with KK's sentiment and still think the rioters should be punished far more harshly

Sure, there isn't any law against hypocrisy.

Acknowledging a slightly positive side effect of a crime doesn't make it any less criminal nor does it necessarily mean the punishment should be less severe.

A lot of rich people in power have spread bullshit, much of which they don't actually believe, to pander to the electorate and get votes.  They have also largely been insulated to the negative consequences by being rich people in power.  Generally, I think it's good for them to see some sort of consequences to those lies.  I don't find it hypocritical to say that it also should have no bearing on the punishment of the people who broke the law. 

[chum1]

Saying "stormed the capital because of Q-Anon and a bunch of dumb stuff" kinda trivializes what happened in a way similar to "tourists taking selfies."

An incredible effort was made at all levels to keep Trump in power and hardly anyone wants to reckon with that. People seem more comfortable sticking with the assumption that something like that couldn't happen here.

[bucket]

I think Jan. 6th was bad in the sense that people stormed the capital because of Q-Anon and a bunch of dumb stuff, but good in that a bunch of the most powerful people in the country felt scared for their lives.

This is the both sidesing I can get behind

it is absolute nonsense and complete stupidity.

the individuals involved with the failed coup should have been dealt with far more harshly than we have.  one of the grave mistakes democrats have made is that they prioritized a bunch of dubious spending bills over pursuing justice and defending our democracy.

Absolutely. Kat Kid, steve dave, and star seed 7 need to get a grip.

I don't think we want congress to bow down to fascists. 

[420seriouscat69]

Protesting and rioting seems like a huge waste of time and the people who do it seem like huge dumbasses. I would probably attend a protest tho against rioters who loot and break crap, to protest against that kind of crap. Happy we can all agree on something here. Bring this same energy on both sides of the agenda. #TEDtalk

[bucket]

Protesting and rioting seems like a huge waste of time and the people who do it seem like huge dumbasses. I would probably attend a protest tho against rioters who loot and break crap, to protest against that kind of crap. Happy we can all agree on something here. Bring this same energy on both side of the agenda. #TEDtalk

No one supports looting and/or rioting. We all agree those bad actors should be arrested. You can support peaceful protests and be against looting/riots. Do you think all of the civil rights protests were peaceful?

[420seriouscat69]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

[sys]

Saying "stormed the capital because of Q-Anon and a bunch of dumb stuff" kinda trivializes what happened in a way similar to "tourists taking selfies."

yes, that's also really stupid.

[chum1]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

[Kat Kid]

I think Jan. 6th was bad in the sense that people stormed the capital because of Q-Anon and a bunch of dumb stuff, but good in that a bunch of the most powerful people in the country felt scared for their lives.

This is the both sidesing I can get behind

it is absolute nonsense and complete stupidity.

the individuals involved with the failed coup should have been dealt with far more harshly than we have.  one of the grave mistakes democrats have made is that they prioritized a bunch of dubious spending bills over pursuing justice and defending our democracy.

Do you think a violent overthrow of the government was a potential outcome on Jan 6th?  What do you think was going to happen?

I think the institutions are plenty rotten, but the idiots in the capital were not the real problem.  Maybe we agree here.

[Cire]

are we back to both sidesing?

[420seriouscat69]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

"MY TEAM RIOTS WITH MORE ETIQUTTE!"- Chum

You could easily find really bad crap that happened during that time, that the national news decided not to cover, if you really gave a crap either way, bud. But you don't care. You're human and only care about your side of the table.

[chum1]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

"MY TEAM RIOTS WITH MORE ETIQUTTE!"- Chum

You could easily find really bad crap that happened during that time, that the national news decided not to cover, if you really gave a crap either way, bud. But you don't care. You're human and only care about your side of the table.

What could I find about BLM protesters that would compare with an attempt to overthrow our government?

[Spracne]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

"MY TEAM RIOTS WITH MORE ETIQUTTE!"- Chum

You could easily find really bad crap that happened during that time, that the national news decided not to cover, if you really gave a crap either way, bud. But you don't care. You're human and only care about your side of the table.

I think one of your problems is that you have this binary view of the world. "My side," "your side," etc. Most of the posters here are plenty capable of holding multiple, seemingly opposing views in their minds at the same time. Yet you have this idea that everyone subscribes wholesale to all the ideas you assume are held by people who are placed by you into one of two buckets. That's simply not true. I also find it irritating that you routinely state claims as facts when those claims are by their nature non-falsifiable/non-verifiable. That doesn't engender much credibility.

[chum1]

I think the institutions are plenty rotten, but the idiots in the capital were not the real problem.  Maybe we agree here.

I never thought to distinguish between the two. Much of it was coordinated together. And it was all directed toward the same end: keeping Trump in power.

[nicname]

I think Jan. 6th was bad in the sense that people stormed the capital because of Q-Anon and a bunch of dumb stuff, but good in that a bunch of the most powerful people in the country felt scared for their lives.

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think you can agree with KK's sentiment and still think the rioters should be punished far more harshly

Sure, there isn't any law against hypocrisy.

Acknowledging a slightly positive side effect of a crime doesn't make it any less criminal nor does it necessarily mean the punishment should be less severe.

A lot of rich people in power have spread bullshit, much of which they don't actually believe, to pander to the electorate and get votes.  They have also largely been insulated to the negative consequences by being rich people in power.  Generally, I think it's good for them to see some sort of consequences to those lies.  I don't find it hypocritical to say that it also should have no bearing on the punishment of the people who broke the law.

I don't see that as a positive side effect at all.

[420seriouscat69]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

"MY TEAM RIOTS WITH MORE ETIQUTTE!"- Chum

You could easily find really bad crap that happened during that time, that the national news decided not to cover, if you really gave a crap either way, bud. But you don't care. You're human and only care about your side of the table.

What could I find about BLM protesters that would compare with an attempt to overthrow our government?

You're so dramatic. lol, but whatever. You view the world differently.

[420seriouscat69]

I think the same ppl who have outrage about this event, were mute as crap when that bad stuff was happening during the #BLM movement. That's all I'm saying. #moderate

I can see how you'd have that point of view. From my point of view, the diffetence is that many the Capitol rioters seriously wanted to overturn the results of a presidential election; and no BLM protesters were ever doing anything on that level.

"MY TEAM RIOTS WITH MORE ETIQUTTE!"- Chum

You could easily find really bad crap that happened during that time, that the national news decided not to cover, if you really gave a crap either way, bud. But you don't care. You're human and only care about your side of the table.

I think one of your problems is that you have this binary view of the world. "My side," "your side," etc. Most of the posters here are plenty capable of holding multiple, seemingly opposing views in their minds at the same time. Yet you have this idea that everyone subscribes wholesale to all the ideas you assume are held by people who are placed by you into one of two buckets. That's simply not true. I also find it irritating that you routinely state claims as facts when those claims are by their nature non-falsifiable/non-verifiable. That doesn't engender much credibility.

[Dugout DickStone]

Man, a year ago a bumbling trumper literally tazed his genitals until he died.  It has provided me such delight.   One year anniversary of that amazing maga tale.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think the MAGAs can outdo themselves this year, but if they continue turning themselves blue, there is a potential for someone to taze his own blue balls at a future riot.

[Dugout DickStone]

I don't think the MAGAs can outdo themselves this year, but if they continue turning themselves blue, there is a potential for someone to taze his own blue balls at a future riot.

Yeah, I was severely disappointed in the effort so far until Candice Owens brought out her maga fastball