Liz Bruenig thread

[Kat Kid]

absolute gut wrenching piece in NYT today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/opinion/federal-executions-trump-alfred-bourgeois.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

[Cire]

So stupid and senseless

[DQ12]

It's an interesting topic and the pov perspective from the article was interesting in a voyeuristic sense, but I think she shortchanged the rationale(s) underlying the death penalty. 

I think the death penalty is wrong, but its purpose isn't just for closure/catharsis.  There's something to be said for punitive justice: "you did something society deems abhorrent enough to be put to death for."  That the entire exercise is unpleasant to witness shouldn't have come as a surprise to our girl, Liz.

[Kat Kid]

It's an interesting topic and the pov perspective from the article was interesting in a voyeuristic sense, but I think she shortchanged the rationale(s) underlying the death penalty. 

I think the death penalty is wrong, but its purpose isn't just for closure/catharsis.  There's something to be said for punitive justice: "you did something society deems abhorrent enough to be put to death for."  That the entire exercise is unpleasant to witness shouldn't have come as a surprise to our girl, Liz.

The specific reason given by every prosecutor is for closure/catharsis so it was a good meditation on what that actually means and why we perform these executions in the manner we do.

[Fedor]

https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1339410569561030656

[chum1]

She's a conservative Christian, right? Just asking because I've never been sure about it.

[michigancat]

She's a conservative Christian, right? Just asking because I've never been sure about it.

more of a socialist christian

[Fedor]

She's a conservative Christian, right? Just asking because I've never been sure about it.

more of a socialist christian

From Wiki

Bruenig has been described as being on "the Catholic Left"[15] by Rod Dreher in The American Conservative. In a profile published by Washington Monthly, she is described as "the most prominently placed of a small but increasingly visible group of young writers unabashedly advocating for democratic socialism."[16]

[chum1]

Well, it always seemed to me that Jesus was a socialist.

[michigancat]

Well, it always seemed to me that Jesus was a socialist.

definitely, it's odd that Liz is such a rare breed

[MakeItRain]

Trump showed his ass on the death penalty 30 years ago, frankly I'm surprised the executions weren't a bigger priority of the justice department much earlier in his administration.