The Biden (interim) Dictator

[CNS]

If Ukraine is invaded, I think we should see what those who are geographically closer to them do.   Russia has a lot more over the EU than they do us with gas and what not.  Given that and physical proximity, I would think it was in their best interest to be the main force in whatever happens. 


That said, I would imagine we can't wait to be back at war.

[LickNeckey]

direct military engagement in exceptionally unlikely

us and germany are leveraging Nord as a financial carrot to stimy aggression

[Kat Kid]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

[chum1]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

Because after WWII we decided that these sorts of things are generally very, very bad. And things have been relatively more peaceful for a long time since.

[Kat Kid]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

Because after WWII we decided that these sorts of things are generally very, very bad. And things have been relatively more peaceful for a long time since.

come on man. seriously?

Leaving aside how wrong this is, accepting your idea about post-WW2 norms--

I think a potential war between two or more nuclear powers looks worse than a two state major/minor power border war/territorial expansion.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we should conduct a tundra storm and push them out without boots on the ground.

[sonofdaxjones]

Let’s get in a land war in Europe (with a Nuclear power) over one of the most corrupt countries in the world (after 25 years of goading Russia into a land war in Europe). 

NeoCon’s (now featuring #blueanon nation) never rest.

Sad

[chum1]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

Because after WWII we decided that these sorts of things are generally very, very bad. And things have been relatively more peaceful for a long time since.

come on man. seriously?

Leaving aside how wrong this is, accepting your idea about post-WW2 norms--

I think a potential war between two or more nuclear powers looks worse than a two state major/minor power border war/territorial expansion.

I'm not sure how many people would agree with you that possible dead people are worse than actual dead people.

But you're absolutely certain that Putin will be all done with invading after Ukraine? Because that's really what's at the heart of this particular post-WWII US foreign policy.

[cfbandyman]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

Because after WWII we decided that these sorts of things are generally very, very bad. And things have been relatively more peaceful for a long time since.

come on man. seriously?

Leaving aside how wrong this is, accepting your idea about post-WW2 norms--

I think a potential war between two or more nuclear powers looks worse than a two state major/minor power border war/territorial expansion.

I'm not sure how many people would agree with you that possible dead people are worse than actual dead people.

But you're absolutely certain that Putin will be all done with invading after Ukraine? Because that's really what's at the heart of this particular post-WWII US foreign policy.

I wouldn't, Kazakhstan is ripe as well.

[sonofdaxjones]

Putin and Kazakhstan are bro's.

Unlike a typical U.S. incursion, Russia helped out Kazakhstan against Biden's buds and then left a couple of days later.

[steve dave]

lmao Dax, you really love putin

[sonofdaxjones]

lmao Dax, you really love putin

Steve Dave = Paranoid #blueanon NeoCon

 

[sonofdaxjones]

A preemptive assault on our Democracy!!  Part of #blueanon's years long assault on our Democracy.

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1483931218810970112?s=20

[star seed 7]

lmao Dax, you really love putin

It's almost romantic

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanonGe:  A lifetime romance with forever war  (as long as a Democrat is doing the bombing)

 

[sonofdaxjones]

The Clown President causes another need for clean-up on another aisle has he bumbles and stumbles around assaulting our Democracy every step of the way.

Clarifying the re clarification of President Clown Suit and his perpetual attack on our Democracy. 

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1484166808894640131?s=20

[Phil Titola]

what a bewb

[Kat Kid]

Why am I supposed to care about Ukraine getting invaded?

Because after WWII we decided that these sorts of things are generally very, very bad. And things have been relatively more peaceful for a long time since.

come on man. seriously?

Leaving aside how wrong this is, accepting your idea about post-WW2 norms--

I think a potential war between two or more nuclear powers looks worse than a two state major/minor power border war/territorial expansion.

I'm not sure how many people would agree with you that possible dead people are worse than actual dead people.

But you're absolutely certain that Putin will be all done with invading after Ukraine? Because that's really what's at the heart of this particular post-WWII US foreign policy.

I am not absolutely certain of that. I am absolutely certain that the number of wars that have been justified using this same bizarre framing of everyone as Hitler (Iraq x2, Syria, Iran/Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc.) has killed way more people than will die in any war between only Russia and Ukraine.

[chum1]

I am absolutely certain that the number of wars that have been justified using this same bizarre framing of everyone as Hitler (Iraq x2, Syria, Iran/Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc.) has killed way more people than will die in any war between only Russia and Ukraine.

So, you're only arguing that we should not go to war? And you're not arguing that we should't be concerned about Russia invading Ukraine?

If so, I'm not sure we disagree.

[Kat Kid]

I am absolutely certain that the number of wars that have been justified using this same bizarre framing of everyone as Hitler (Iraq x2, Syria, Iran/Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc.) has killed way more people than will die in any war between only Russia and Ukraine.

So, you're only arguing that we should not go to war? And you're not arguing that we should't be concerned about Russia invading Ukraine?

If so, I'm not sure we disagree.

In my experience when the people in charge say they are "concerned" about something in foreign policy usually a lot of people die.

So far it seems Joe's instincts to call this a "minor incursion" and to withdraw from Afghanistan have been terrific developments even though on this blog everyone threw a fit about the afghanistan withdrawl and Biden had people "clarifying" his comments because Ukraine wasn't happy. So hopefully Joe goes with his instincts and stays out of it.

In my opinion, a lot of this could've been avoided if NATO had kept its 1990 promise for German re-unification not to continue to expand East.

[sonofdaxjones]

I am absolutely certain that the number of wars that have been justified using this same bizarre framing of everyone as Hitler (Iraq x2, Syria, Iran/Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc.) has killed way more people than will die in any war between only Russia and Ukraine.

So, you're only arguing that we should not go to war? And you're not arguing that we should't be concerned about Russia invading Ukraine?

If so, I'm not sure we disagree.

In my experience when the people in charge say they are "concerned" about something in foreign policy usually a lot of people die.

So far it seems Joe's instincts to call this a "minor incursion" and to withdraw from Afghanistan have been terrific developments even though on this blog everyone threw a fit about the afghanistan withdrawl and Biden had people "clarifying" his comments because Ukraine wasn't happy. So hopefully Joe goes with his instincts and stays out of it.

In my opinion, a lot of this could've been avoided if NATO had kept its 1990 promise for German re-unification not to continue to expand East.

You're speaking to deaf ears on this forum, KK.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Looks like Russia is sailing ships through the English Channel. War should be starting any day now.

[catastrophe]

What was the knock on Pete from the right, or was he not high enough in the rankings to garner criticism?

I think more the latter. If anything the critique would have been lack of experience or just amplifying the bad press the left was already lobbing at him.

[MakeItRain]

i assume klobuchar is one of the mean bitches?  who is the other in this telling?

I'm assuming Kamala otherwise idk

Kamala was the cop.

One and the same.

Pete was also made out to be a leftists pinko by everyone but actual leftist pinkos. Some people getting mad about McKinsey is the reason he lost Iowa. Sitting at a caucus and watching people vacillate between Liz, Bernie, and Pete was hilarious.

[Spracne]

i assume klobuchar is one of the mean bitches?  who is the other in this telling?

I'm assuming Kamala otherwise idk

Kamala was the cop.

One and the same.

Pete was also made out to be a leftists pinko by everyone but actual leftist pinkos. Some people getting mad about McKinsey is the reason he lost Iowa. Sitting at a caucus and watching people vacillate between Liz, Bernie, and Pete was hilarious.

Wouldn't McKinsey cut sharply against the leftist pinko narrative?