The Biden (interim) Dictator

[wetwillie]

We had a nice run

[steve dave]

this is nuts. how ballsy is this reporter?

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1427285566438117380

[Spracne]

Biden administration caught entirely flat-footed. The silence coming from the WH is deafening.

[wiley]

this is nuts. how ballsy is this reporter?

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1427285566438117380

Charlotte Bellis is w/Al Jazeera and is in the city as well reporting.  She's basically reporting the same thing (about it being calm everywhere but the airport).


*note she is from New Zealand, not a US citizen.

[MakeItRain]

Really good thread

https://twitter.com/LauraJedeed/status/1426689324284841987

That is a great thread, thank you for sharing it.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Very unstoppable strongly #Americafirst leadership

https://twitter.com/parkerbutler10/status/1427295338382118918?s=20

[MakeItRain]

@Tbt, what am I missing here?

tact

[MakeItRain]

Didn't about everybody want us out? Someone ELI5 me how this could have went better? Sounds like there is no way it could have gone worse.

lol. If Trump would have mocked the Taliban, pulled out troops, and this was the result of it, you wouldn’t stfu about it. Now it’s just “ho hum, golly gee” by super lib residents. Pathetic!

He did exactly this, wacky. Literally, exactly this. Trump, Obama, and Bush are more culpable than Biden.

[Spracne]

Didn't about everybody want us out? Someone ELI5 me how this could have went better? Sounds like there is no way it could have gone worse.

lol. If Trump would have mocked the Taliban, pulled out troops, and this was the result of it, you wouldn’t stfu about it. Now it’s just “ho hum, golly gee” by super lib residents. Pathetic!

He did exactly this, wacky. Literally, exactly this. Trump, Obama, and Bush are more culpable than Biden.

More culpable? Yes. Still, Biden deserves the criticism, in my opinion, for how this ultimately went down. He's the chief, and that's how it goes.

[MakeItRain]

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

[MakeItRain]

Didn't about everybody want us out? Someone ELI5 me how this could have went better? Sounds like there is no way it could have gone worse.

lol. If Trump would have mocked the Taliban, pulled out troops, and this was the result of it, you wouldn’t stfu about it. Now it’s just “ho hum, golly gee” by super lib residents. Pathetic!

He did exactly this, wacky. Literally, exactly this. Trump, Obama, and Bush are more culpable than Biden.

More culpable? Yes. Still, Biden deserves the criticism, in my opinion, for how this ultimately went down. He's the chief, and that's how it goes.

Yeah, more culpable. He could have continued to do nothing, and avoided the criticism that his predecessors didn't get, is that what we're advocating for?

[slackcat]

Trump laid the groundwork for this crap show and Biden is just the closing act.  That being said, Biden could have listened to his advisors and nixed the deal.  Al-Qaeda and ISIS will have their old stomping grounds back so I hope Pakistan keeps them on a short leash.

jmho

[Spracne]

Didn't about everybody want us out? Someone ELI5 me how this could have went better? Sounds like there is no way it could have gone worse.

lol. If Trump would have mocked the Taliban, pulled out troops, and this was the result of it, you wouldn’t stfu about it. Now it’s just “ho hum, golly gee” by super lib residents. Pathetic!

He did exactly this, wacky. Literally, exactly this. Trump, Obama, and Bush are more culpable than Biden.

More culpable? Yes. Still, Biden deserves the criticism, in my opinion, for how this ultimately went down. He's the chief, and that's how it goes.

Yeah, more culpable. He could have continued to do nothing, and avoided the criticism that his predecessors didn't get, is that what we're advocating for?

Nope. I'm mostly agreeing with you. It's a catch-22 situation with no good options, and yes, Biden is less blameworthy than his predecessors for why we've arrived at that point. I'm merely saying it is also fair to criticize this administration for how this event was handled. Terrible optics for the administration and for this country, as well. There are many ways to look at this situation, and there would have been criticism no matter what. Human suffering was inevitable, and I admire Biden for having the strength to do the difficult thing his predecessors couldn't stomach.

[kim carnes]

Personally I think everyone needs to stop being so hysterical about this.

[mocat]

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

I would think we could have gotten some more people out before pulling out ourselves

[CHONGS]

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

I don't know that there was a best solution out there, but if we knew that we couldn't pull out without an immediate collapse, then Biden shouldn't have said otherwise. 

IMO we either didn't know (which is bad), or we did know and Biden lied about it with the hopes that we could get lucky (also bad).

Either way I do understand that there wasn't a easy solution here.

[MakeItRain]

Didn't about everybody want us out? Someone ELI5 me how this could have went better? Sounds like there is no way it could have gone worse.

lol. If Trump would have mocked the Taliban, pulled out troops, and this was the result of it, you wouldn’t stfu about it. Now it’s just “ho hum, golly gee” by super lib residents. Pathetic!

He did exactly this, wacky. Literally, exactly this. Trump, Obama, and Bush are more culpable than Biden.

More culpable? Yes. Still, Biden deserves the criticism, in my opinion, for how this ultimately went down. He's the chief, and that's how it goes.

Yeah, more culpable. He could have continued to do nothing, and avoided the criticism that his predecessors didn't get, is that what we're advocating for?

Nope. I'm mostly agreeing with you. It's a catch-22 situation with no good options, and yes, Biden is less blameworthy than his predecessors for why we've arrived at that point. I'm merely saying it is also fair to criticize this administration for how this event was handled. Terrible optics for the administration and for this country, as well. There are many ways to look at this situation, and there would have been criticism no matter what. Human suffering was inevitable, and I admire Biden for having the strength to do the difficult thing his predecessors couldn't stomach.

 

[nicname]

Personally I think everyone needs to stop being so hysterical about this.

Same.

[MakeItRain]

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

I would think we could have gotten some more people out before pulling out ourselves

This is fair but I think the Taliban would have advanced when we started pulling people out, whether we announced it our not. They gave tv, radio, and the internet too.

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

I don't know that there was a best solution out there, but if we knew that we couldn't pull out without an immediate collapse, then Biden shouldn't have said otherwise. 

IMO we either didn't know (which is bad), or we did know and Biden lied about it with the hopes that we could get lucky (also bad).

Either way I do understand that there wasn't a easy solution here.

Well put Chingon. Fwiw I think they knew this was going to happen, but not this fast, so yeah I think they didn't tell the truth when telling us what was going to happen.

[Dugout DickStone]

Biden and his military staff mumped this up.  Sure he wasn't in a ideal situation, but that's no excuse to be so wrong about the situation.  He needs to own it.

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What was the solution here? If we are resolute that they mumped up, what should they have done differently other than
to continue kick the can down the road or call for a troop surge with the purpose of actively fighting the Taliban?

After 20 years your strategy should not be dine and dash.

[sonofdaxjones]

 

Total and complete ProgFacist/#blueanonGe meltdown had this occurred under Trump.

Pelosi et. al. would already be drawing up yet another set of articles of impeachment

Nothing, absolutely nothing prevented Biden from tearing up the Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan.  Based on what the Taliban was doing in the past few months.

Progfacists/#blueanon/#blueanonGe were hoping this would be a glorious event and they wanted Joe Biden to get all the credit.    Every political maneuver during the Trump administration to prevent the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan under the auspices of the Trump Administration was done with the express mission of preventing Trump from getting any credit for doing so.

Own it Joe.  Own it ProgFascists/#blueanon/#blueanonGe

[Kat Kid]

I think the immediate collapse kind of proves that all the reasons for leaving are even more true. Like there was no state, there was no army, there was no progress. 20 years! 4 presidents!

I fully agree that Biden messaged this badly and probably could’ve done a better job with the airfield evac or whatever but this all was going to happen at some point, better now than in 50 years.

[kim carnes]

I think the immediate collapse kind of proves that all the reasons for leaving are even more true. Like there was no state, there was no army, there was no progress. 20 years! 4 presidents!

I fully agree that Biden messaged this badly and probably could’ve done a better job with the airfield evac or whatever but this all was going to happen at some point, better now than in 50 years.

Yes!

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1427367106954280960?s=20

[nicname]

I think the immediate collapse kind of proves that all the reasons for leaving are even more true. Like there was no state, there was no army, there was no progress. 20 years! 4 presidents!

I fully agree that Biden messaged this badly and probably could’ve done a better job with the airfield evac or whatever but this all was going to happen at some point, better now than in 50 years.

Yes!

Correct!

Let this be a lesson learned (lol, ya right). Never should have been there in the first place.