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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2020, 11:14:53 AM »
Anthony Gonzalez constantly gets me horned up. It won't be long before he gets washingtonized though, AOC is already moving down that road.

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« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2021, 02:21:38 AM »
"a lot of political rhetoric is picking a slice of "elites" and positioning yourselves against them."

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« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2021, 07:55:27 AM »
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Trump and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.

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« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2021, 08:23:59 AM »
As the late great Dr. Serizawa said in Godzilla. "Let them fight."

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« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2021, 08:43:13 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2021, 08:48:01 AM »
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Trump and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.

And this is what will ultimately destroy the Republican party.  MAGA is even attacking Lindsey Graham after he said "challenging with zero proof is a political dodge versus fighting for Trump".  As MAGA digs deeper, non-MAGA Pubs will step away.  If the Loefflers of the world continue to get nominated as the party candidates, Democrats will continue to win.  Lindsey knows this as he received a huge wakeup call in his election. 

MAGA did not help their case with all the antics post election.  The self-inflicted blue wave might be around for a while.  I don't love it, but prefer over MAGA wave.   
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« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2021, 09:02:45 AM »
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Drumpf and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.

And this is what will ultimately destroy the Republican party.  MAGA is even attacking Lindsey Graham after he said "challenging with zero proof is a political dodge versus fighting for Drumpf".  As MAGA digs deeper, non-MAGA Pubs will step away.  If the Loefflers of the world continue to get nominated as the party candidates, Democrats will continue to win.  Lindsey knows this as he received a huge wakeup call in his election. 

MAGA did not help their case with all the antics post election.  The self-inflicted blue wave might be around for a while.  I don't love it, but prefer over MAGA wave.   

They MAGAs will continue to hitch themselves to a practically once in a generation confluence of factors that brought in trump. They seem to think (wrongly of course) they are the majority, when in 2016, especially looking back, enough people just took the gamble on trump just to say eff it let's see what happens. We have seen what happens, and anyone with sense jumped shipped and left the red hot core of magas by themselves.

I agree if the pubs continue to tolerate it (why not, it's practically them now) it'll destroy them. They are a group that doesn't add people it sheds it, and you can't win by constantly shrinking your pool of voters day over day, year after year. That being said, we'll see what 2022 brings, I am curious how quickly they pivot from trump happens 1/21/21. The more they dig in, the more they will suffer. They might be successful in moving away, but that's going to be a tough trick to do, but most magas are pretty stupid so it's possible.
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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2021, 09:04:01 AM »
The Republican Party needs trump to be imprisoned.

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« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2021, 09:06:29 AM »
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.

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« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2021, 09:11:25 AM »
I don't know how big of a shift we see on 1/21 from the Republicans.  The loudest voice to their base will continue to be Donald Trump and he isn't going leave the spotlight anytime soon.  Deep red states will continue to embrace him but he certainly will be damaging to moderates.

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« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2021, 09:15:30 AM »
he certainly will be damaging to moderates.

Much less certain after yesterday.

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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2021, 09:59:28 AM »
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.

Maybe, but he also motivated people to vote against him.

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« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2021, 10:11:47 AM »
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.

Maybe, but he also motivated people to vote against him.

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« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2021, 10:22:20 AM »
If there’s one thing the totality of the last election told us is that there’s very little concern with multiple outcomes in the ProgLib camp.  The speaker needed every Rona super spreader to show up in person to scratch out keeping her GinOxy laden brain and hand shakingly latched to the gavel. 

Now she’s passing out a few committee crumbs to keep the far left lunatics placated and enraged at MAGA. 

Meanwhile ChiCom is firmly planting the kind of West Wing inhabitants that Kstreet, WalL Street, Big Pharma, Big Tech, perpetual war lovers and China know and love. 


But BidenVoter doesn’t understand nor does BidenVoter care.
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« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2021, 10:51:14 AM »
he certainly will be damaging to moderates.

Much less certain after yesterday.

Kind of an interesting take re mods and republicans. (Lee v much doesn't like the direction of our two party system)
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/

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« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2021, 10:53:16 AM »
LOL that answers that.  They will keep blasting their own balls into outer space until their generation dies out.

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« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2021, 11:05:26 AM »
Against regime change and perpetual war equals far right. (BidenVoter sayings 2021)

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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2021, 11:07:33 AM »
Against regime change and perpetual war equals far right. (BidenVoter sayings 2021)

dang, magas won't stop even down 4 touchdowns after the gun sounds.  This is amaze

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« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2021, 11:41:49 AM »
Slow Dug not even close: BAU

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« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2021, 12:30:05 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2021, 12:35:41 PM »
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"
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« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2021, 12:44:26 PM »
Mitch's pivot started now
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« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2021, 12:45:43 PM »
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

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