Whites of privilege; drawn like moths to a flame to making fun of poor whites

[nicname]

Growing up, Applebee's was one of the "fancy" restaurants you would go to for birthdays, high school dances, etc., because there just weren't many other options. I didn't realize until moving to larger cities that Applebee's was not fine dining

Like it wasn't even on my radar for fine dining.

This feels like big city boys punching down on small town boys. All the rich kids would go to Wichita to eat at Macaroni Grille or Olive Garden. For the rest of us, it was Applebee's or crap on a shingle.

I remember thinking how great it was to eat at Applebee’s for the first time in like 6th grade. I’m pretty sure I arrived at college thinking it was fine dining.

[nicname]

I was pretty blitzed when I posted OP, but it’s something that’s been on my mind since just after last election.Its imo a huge reason why Trump is president. You have dozens of millions of people with little hope and futures that look(ed) worse than the present and past. Opiate addiction skyrocketing (thanks big pharma), people succumbing to the reality that the manufacturing type jobs that once could feed a family were being replaced by low wage service-type work and the like.

Poverty, generational poverty, doesn’t care what color you are. But people seem too. What’s left is an underclass, the last remaining crap stain for the rest of society to laugh at mock and ridicule.

Trump is the blowback.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492731/

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/08/01/605084163/why-its-still-ok-to-trash-poor-white-people

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/poor-whites-have-been-written-out-of-history-for-a-very-political-reason

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_White

[nicname]

Not that I’m not guilty as well. You can check my post history. Former poors can’t wait to separate ourselves from those left behind.

[michigancat]

I was pretty blitzed when I posted OP, but it’s something that’s been on my mind since just after last election.Its imo a huge reason why Trump is president. You have dozens of millions of people with little hope and futures that look(ed) worse than the present and past. Opiate addiction skyrocketing (thanks big pharma), people succumbing to the reality that the manufacturing type jobs that once could feed a family were being replaced by low wage service-type work and the like.

Poverty, generational poverty, doesn’t care what color you are. But people seem too. What’s left is an underclass, the last remaining crap stain for the rest of society to laugh at mock and ridicule.

Trump is the blowback.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492731/

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/08/01/605084163/why-its-still-ok-to-trash-poor-white-people

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/poor-whites-have-been-written-out-of-history-for-a-very-political-reason

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_White

You should read "The Righteous Mind". It was written pre-Trump but I think the author makes pretty decent arguments that suggest Trump's rise wasn't as simple as you describe (even if I don't agree with all his conclusions).

[nicname]

My bad, not saying it’s simple or the, but a big reason. Also, Trump’s election just an anecdote. For sure will read the book. The manipulation of people, but more specifically poor and working class types is both depressing and fascinating.

[MakeItRain]

Applebees has awesome fries.

They don't stay crisp for very long

[chum1]

I think the Applebee's thing is fundamentally different from typical aggrieved Trump/conservative voter stuff, which definitely exists. Seems more to me like music snob stuff, just newer. Foodie stuff.

[DQ12]

Applebees has awesome fries.

They don't stay crisp for very long

Luckily I never needed them to.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I think the Applebee's thing is fundamentally different from typical aggrieved Trump/conservative voter stuff, which definitely exists. Seems more to me like music snob stuff, just newer. Foodie stuff.

So does that make applebees nickelback or skynard?

[steve dave]

I think the Applebee's thing is fundamentally different from typical aggrieved Trump/conservative voter stuff, which definitely exists. Seems more to me like music snob stuff, just newer. Foodie stuff.

good comparo

[michigancat]

I think the Applebee's thing is fundamentally different from typical aggrieved Trump/conservative voter stuff, which definitely exists. Seems more to me like music snob stuff, just newer. Foodie stuff.

good comparo

I think the difference is foodie-ism definitely has more of a class structure that parallels wealth than music snobbery. there's not a lot of privileged whites who would admit to loving Applebee's, but there are a ton that love Sknynrd, or at least one or two songs.

[chum1]

I think the Applebee's thing is fundamentally different from typical aggrieved Trump/conservative voter stuff, which definitely exists. Seems more to me like music snob stuff, just newer. Foodie stuff.

good comparo

I think the difference is foodie-ism definitely has more of a class structure that parallels wealth than music snobbery. there's not a lot of privileged whites who would admit to loving Applebee's, but there are a ton that love Sknynrd, or at least one or two songs.

Maybe. Though, Trump voters are definitely not aggrieved by issues of wealth or class.

[star seed 7]

Prob cause skynard rocks and 'bee's is the definition of blah

[star seed 7]

I say that as someone who went to Applebee's probably at least once a month for many years with my parents and I just always thought their peer chains were vastly better

[Institutional Control]

My dad goes every year on his birthday because he eats for free. His birthday is Veterans Day and he's a veteran.

When I was a kid I would have loved to gone to Applebees on occasion but we were too poor to eat out.

[DQ12]

My favorite applebees story was when I lived in champaign and me and my two roommates decided to visit the 'bees.  We were all pretty excited and Roommate 2 (a hefty fella) was like "dlew we going 2 for 20?" and i was like "right on, brother!"

when the waiter came around she started with Roommate 2 and he was like "yeah i'll do the 2 for 20 and get a chicken tenders and the cheeseburger quesadilla and an order of mozzarella sticks."  that's when it hit me that he thought we were both doing our own, separate 2 for 20s.  Really rattled me.

[michigancat]

My favorite applebees story was when I lived in champaign and me and my two roommates decided to visit the 'bees.  We were all pretty excited and Roommate 2 (a hefty fella) was like "dlew we going 2 for 20?" and i was like "right on, brother!"

when the waiter came around she started with Roommate 2 and he was like "yeah i'll do the 2 for 20 and get a chicken tenders and the cheeseburger quesadilla and an order of mozzarella sticks."  that's when it hit me that he thought we were both doing our own, separate 2 for 20s.  Really rattled me.

[gatoveintisiete]

An interesting thing about Applebees, they showed up in the mid eighties and back then restaurant menus were pretty unimaginative.  They changed all that and in my mind spurred the super creative indy foodie restaurant boom.  So thanks Applebees, tip o the cap.

[michigancat]

An interesting thing about Applebees, they showed up in the mid eighties and back then restaurant menus were pretty unimaginative.  They changed all that and in my mind spurred the super creative indy foodie restaurant boom.  So thanks Applebees, tip o the cap.

did they invent fusion food?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

it was a wild time. Thinking back to that sizzler promo commercial but i don't remember what thread it was posted in a long time ago. will repost link here tho just b/c wow what an incredible time to be alive. wow.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YGtQ40Qvs[/youtube]

[DQ12]

An interesting thing about Applebees, they showed up in the mid eighties and back then restaurant menus were pretty unimaginative.  They changed all that and in my mind spurred the super creative indy foodie restaurant boom.  So thanks Applebees, tip o the cap.

did they invent fusion food?

"yeah i'll do the 2 for 20 and get a chicken tenders and the cheeseburger quesadilla and an order of mozzarella sticks." 

[Sandstone Outcropping]

it was a wild time. Thinking back to that sizzler promo commercial but i don't remember what thread it was posted in a long time ago. will repost link here tho just b/c wow what an incredible time to be alive. wow.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YGtQ40Qvs[/youtube]

Anthony Bourdain filmed part of an episode of "No Reservations" in Sizzler.

[nicname]

My favorite applebees story was when I lived in champaign and me and my two roommates decided to visit the 'bees.  We were all pretty excited and Roommate 2 (a hefty fella) was like "dlew we going 2 for 20?" and i was like "right on, brother!"

when the waiter came around she started with Roommate 2 and he was like "yeah i'll do the 2 for 20 and get a chicken tenders and the cheeseburger quesadilla and an order of mozzarella sticks."  that's when it hit me that he thought we were both doing our own, separate 2 for 20s.  Really rattled me.

Oh man!

[8manpick]

it was a wild time. Thinking back to that sizzler promo commercial but i don't remember what thread it was posted in a long time ago. will repost link here tho just b/c wow what an incredible time to be alive. wow.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YGtQ40Qvs[/youtube]

Man, I watched that whole thing... incredible

[Trim]

Ponderosa.