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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11700 on: November 11, 2020, 05:54:29 PM »
also it's "fun" to drill down to the data by college in NYTimes stuff. "Garbage commuter garbage schools" do unsurprisingly well at keeping cases down. KU, KSU, NU, etc. are all bright red.

Damn, UNLV gets the last laugh on Pete after all.  :frown:

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11701 on: November 11, 2020, 06:09:29 PM »
For the 21st consecutive day Europe tops the 200K case mark.

In the last 30 days, Europe has added 6,760,247 new cases, a daily avg of 225,342 new cases.

The shine of dax's "well Europe sucks too" attempted counter point is wearing thin.  Dude we're supposed to be BETTER.  Let's drill down into some asian and african countries and look at them kicking western societies asses and they party it up because they had their crap together.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11702 on: November 11, 2020, 06:14:12 PM »
I know there is probably too many variables to pin this down but is this skyrocket in numbers due to schools or just general fatigue and not giving an eff anymore? 

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11703 on: November 11, 2020, 06:21:01 PM »
America needs to aspire to be Canada, right up there.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11704 on: November 11, 2020, 06:23:41 PM »
America needs to aspire to be Canada, right up there.

Can you face your ears north and figure out their secrets please? 

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11705 on: November 11, 2020, 06:35:19 PM »
I know there is probably too many variables to pin this down but is this skyrocket in numbers due to schools or just general fatigue and not giving an eff anymore?

A combination of many things, but I'd assume a lot of it has to due with people moving inside. Once again, we were 2-3 weeks behind Europe and their spike.

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« Reply #11706 on: November 11, 2020, 06:42:29 PM »
I know there is probably too many variables to pin this down but is this skyrocket in numbers due to schools or just general fatigue and not giving an eff anymore?

A combination of many things, but I'd assume a lot of it has to due with people moving inside. Once again, we were 2-3 weeks behind Europe and their spike.

144k cases today

Yeah, if you look at the western hemisphere at least, most of the rises and falls in cases at the state and local level seem to correlate with weather allowing time spent outside. It's why the south is doing so well now compared to the upper midwest, and the opposite happened in the summer. I bet the South's cases continue to rise as it gets colder

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11707 on: November 11, 2020, 06:52:05 PM »
yeah, the pattern is extremely suggestive of a seasonal effect.


although, i will say the pattern from south america has not been as clear.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11708 on: November 11, 2020, 06:53:10 PM »
KC cases exploded in like 3 weeks and it hasn't been that cold yet. Small sample size I know.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11709 on: November 11, 2020, 07:03:01 PM »
KC cases exploded in like 3 weeks and it hasn't been that cold yet. Small sample size I know.

been thinking about this a bit, especially since i live in an area that doesn't get particularly cold but still has the standard seasonal virus seasons:

1.  it doesn't have to get that cold to be uncomfortable for humans to lounge around doing nothing.  50 is plenty cold to drive people inside.
2.  day length is also probably a strong factor.  humans don't tend to spend much time outdoors in the dark.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11710 on: November 11, 2020, 07:07:23 PM »
yeah, the pattern is extremely suggestive of a seasonal effect.


although, i will say the pattern from south america has not been as clear.

yeah I should have clarified that I don't understand what's going on there. Not sure how clear the data is and I'm guessing the climates are fairly different.

Good point on length of day, too. That combined with the temp is definitely cutting into my outdoor gatherings.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11711 on: November 11, 2020, 07:24:38 PM »
So sick of trying to analyze every nth of the human experience. Like playing a cross between Sims and Plague

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11712 on: November 11, 2020, 07:37:40 PM »
KC cases exploded in like 3 weeks and it hasn't been that cold yet. Small sample size I know.

been thinking about this a bit, especially since i live in an area that doesn't get particularly cold but still has the standard seasonal virus seasons:

1.  it doesn't have to get that cold to be uncomfortable for humans to lounge around doing nothing.  50 is plenty cold to drive people inside.
2.  day length is also probably a strong factor.  humans don't tend to spend much time outdoors in the dark.

2 is a huge factor bc not only is it dark but the temp drops like a rock in most areas as soon as it gets dark.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11713 on: November 11, 2020, 07:42:00 PM »
So sick of trying to analyze every nth of the human experience. Like playing a cross between Sims and Plague

It doesn't require that much analysis with your own behavior. Just draw a line and don't cross it.

Analyzing other people and trends are interesting though

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11714 on: November 11, 2020, 07:48:18 PM »
So sick of trying to analyze every nth of the human experience. Like playing a cross between Sims and Plague

It doesn't require that much analysis with your own behavior. Just draw a line and don't cross it.

Analyzing other people and trends are interesting though
For sure the other people and macro of it all. My life is pretty insulated without kids and a job that all my people are wfh.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11715 on: November 11, 2020, 08:30:25 PM »
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11716 on: November 11, 2020, 08:32:51 PM »
tomorrow all of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths will eclipse the second wave numbers. and they will not be plateauing.....

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11717 on: November 11, 2020, 10:46:23 PM »
For the 21st consecutive day Europe tops the 200K case mark.

In the last 30 days, Europe has added 6,760,247 new cases, a daily avg of 225,342 new cases.

The shine of dax's "well Europe sucks too" attempted counter point is wearing thin.  Dude we're supposed to be BETTER.  Let's drill down into some asian and african countries and look at them kicking western societies asses and they party it up because they had their crap together.
Oh no Phil, the whole CoronaBro hyper partisan shtick is that we suckass but everybody else is kicking its ass.  You’ll deny that like you always do “short timer”.  But that’s reality.   

It will always be about politics for you, Phil.  While your boy brings in “experts” who spent all Spring and Summer contradicting themselves at every turn.  Or announcing to the world they really really hate life, and let’s ship any vaccines everywhere else but here.  But they’re oh so very very worried about the old folks. 

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11719 on: November 12, 2020, 08:18:34 AM »
https://twitter.com/SteamboatUSA/status/1326635990975356928?s=19
Or you work in a service industry and the government won't support you and your employer enough to shut down

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11720 on: November 12, 2020, 08:24:05 AM »
https://twitter.com/SteamboatUSA/status/1326635990975356928?s=19
Or you work in a service industry and the government won't support you and your employer enough to shut down

"you’ve been living your social life lately"

Obviously those who can't change their job or are forced to for the reason you stated are basically forced to be a spreader.  The point of the tweet wasn't to drag those people.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11721 on: November 12, 2020, 08:47:24 AM »
The economic calamity from such orders will be on an order of magnitude never before seen in this country, and the world.




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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11722 on: November 12, 2020, 09:21:40 AM »
The economic calamity from such orders will be on an order of magnitude never before seen in this country, and the world.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #11723 on: November 12, 2020, 09:29:00 AM »
The economic calamity from such orders will be on an order of magnitude never before seen in this country, and the world.

lmao

He meant "never before seen since April"

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« Reply #11724 on: November 12, 2020, 09:55:33 AM »
The economic calamity from such orders will be on an order of magnitude never before seen in this country, and the world.

and like everybody said, failure in the spring will lead to even worse "economic fallout" come fall/winter.  Congrats.  Your dude led is right down that path.