Is Democracy At Stake?

['taterblast]

this is the most important election of our lifetime

[sonofdaxjones]

We'll decide what is/isn't democracy based on whether we get our way or not . . . #blueanon

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Only one of the candidates running in the current election has tried to throw out the election results in the world's oldest and most powerful democracy!

[Pete]

Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?

Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.

So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.

[sonofdaxjones]

Only one of the candidates running in the current election has tried to throw out the election results in the world's oldest and most powerful democracy!

Posted by a member of a party who has challenged the election results of every Pub win since Reagan and worked triple time to delegitmize the win in 2016 while openly calling for a total restructuring of the election process as outlined by the founders of our nation because they didn't get the results they wanted (while also calling for fascistic dictatorial control of the nations highest court)

[star seed 7]

Is democracy even worth saving?

https://youtu.be/Zx-693s3PZc

[_33]

Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?

Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.

So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.

Phew! Close one!

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanon - we tend to start calling for impeachment about 8 to 12 days into a new Pub presidential term.

But Democracy and everything, tho

[Pete]

Democracy has been at stake for the last 2 elections. Luckily we've kept democracy both times. Can we go 3/3?

Last one was touch and go. You don’t watch the news, so you probably missed it where trump supporters stormed the capital and attempted to coerce Pence to block certifying the democratic election. Then, after that failed President Trump and members of his cabinet and his allies and donors called Pence a traitor and accused him of treason.

So, technically you are correct that we have indeed kept democracy, but it not without considerable effort.

Phew! Close one!

Yep. Lucky for all of us that Pence did not do what Trump asked him to do.

[mocat]

this thread is a fun read

[Pete]

Democracy is not at stake yet…we are objectively not yet in a constitutional crisis. If the Supreme Court rules on something (or strategically chooses not to weigh in and instead defer to a lower court’s ruling), and Trump goes against them, then we will officially be in a constitutional crisis, and democracy will be at stake.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.

https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059

[BIG APPLE CAT]

does CPAC just like, have a convention every week or what?

[Pete]

Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.

https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059

Very very very concerning, but until we have a Supreme Court decision(s) and a chance to watch Trump react, everyone is forced to wait and watch.

[Institutional Control]

I like Pete's new coping mechanism of being optimistic. I've chosen apathy.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Threats to democracy have ended in America. The Will of the People has been embodied in Donald J Trump. He who saves His Country commits no crime.

https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1893035098540241059

Very very very concerning, but until we have a Supreme Court decision(s) and a chance to watch Trump react, everyone is forced to wait and watch.

Not gEing here. I really appreciate your optimism.
Congress has already relinquished all of their power to the presidency. It is basically just a forum where they generate sound bites attacking or supporting the president based on who is in/out of the White House.
Not sure we should expect the current admin to abide by SCOTUS rulings that are at odds with "Saving the Country."

[star seed 7]

It's adorable that some of you seem to think scotus is adversarial to trump.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, I just don't see how the supreme court giving a ringing endorsement of everything Trump does, no matter what it is would be saving democracy.

[catastrophe]

To answer OP: yes

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/trump-el-salvador-deportations-immigrants.html

[chum1]

If the question is: are we doing the same types of crap that nascent dictatorships do?

Then the answer is: yes, definitely. Without question.

[sonofdaxjones]

Viewers of this blog are once again reminded that #blueanon/#blueanongE fully supports/supported:

-An administration that put the Patriot Act on steroids

-An administration that gave itself permission to propagandize the population (multiple wings of that mechanism are being dismantled - thankfully, one just yesterday in fact. Lead by a person who believes that government propaganda is good)

-A leader of a government funded broadcast system who believes that the got damn truth often gets in the way of a good story and/or getting things done

-An administration that practiced extrajudicial assassinations of US citizens

-An administration that floated the concept of indefinite detention of US citizens without charge

-A movement that is filled with political apparatchiks and thought leaders who regularly espouse the need to intern self perceived political enemies

-A movement that openly talks about assassination (again)

-An administration that outsourced censorship of US citizens to foreign NGO's and intelligence agencies

-An administration that attempted to create a ministry of truth

-An administration that had a secret domestic terrorism plan that reads like something you'd find in 1939 Germany only instead of Jews - It's targeting their self perceived political enemies

Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

[catastrophe]

Now do openly defying 9-0 Supreme Court orders.

[sonofdaxjones]

There's all kinds of mechanisms to fight that cat . . . that's out in the open for all to see.

Cat: A perpetual state of DerpCon One

[chum1]

A survey of more than 500 political scientists finds that the vast majority think the United States is moving swiftly from liberal democracy toward some form of authoritarianism.

In the benchmark survey, known as Bright Line Watch, U.S.-based professors rate the performance of American democracy on a scale from zero (complete dictatorship) to 100 (perfect democracy). After President Trump's election in November, scholars gave American democracy a rating of 67. Several weeks into Trump's second term, that figure plummeted to 55.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5340753/trump-democracy-authoritarianism-competive-survey-political-scientist

[mocat]

Until they start deporting whites without a trial, I still say "no"