Is Democracy At Stake?

[_33]

I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.

But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.

But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.

I think for most it's just the fear of the guy losing the election staying in power, anyway.

[Spracne]

I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.

But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.

I think for most it's just the fear of the guy losing the election staying in power, anyway.

Lol, correct. This shouldn't need to be stated.

[bucket]

I think for many the fear of losing democracy is actually just the fear of policies passing that they don't like.

But tweeting, 'if we don't Vote Blue policies will pass that we don't like' isn't quite as dramatic.

I mean, some are faced with voting blue or voting for an election denier to oversee state elections.

[_33]

There were 'election deniers' in the house after 2000 and 2004 and 2016. And probably tons of other times.  There's always had to be a choice between voting for an 'election denier' or someone else.

It's just that 'election denier' is the new partisan pandering term meant to influence voters.

[bucket]

There were 'election deniers' in the house after 2000 and 2004 and 2016. And probably tons of other times.  There's always had to be a choice between voting for an 'election denier' or someone else.

It's just that 'election denier' is the new partisan pandering term meant to influence voters.

I don't think we've had 'election deniers' run for secretary of state before, though. The people in charge of elections have traditionally been pretty by the book.

[Rage Against the McKee]

People who think Biden won the election can't win a republican primary.

[Spracne]

Oh Christ, _33. Yes, people have raised questions about particularly close elections since time and memoriam. (BTW, Trump's loss in 2020 wasn't particularly close.) However, it was not until now that we've seen a party make that belief a prerequisite for election to offices that actually oversee elections. Do you truly not understand the difference?

[_33]

Like I said though, none of them actually believe it.  It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on.  No biggie.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Most of them actually believe it.

[michigancat]

Like I said though, none of them actually believe it.  It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on.  No biggie.

why do you think they don't believe it?

[chum1]

There's a difference between the status of democracy and what people say about it. There are also differences between the types of people who say things about the status of democracy. And there are also differences between what people say about it. How obstinate do you have to be to be like, "these things are all the same."

[Spracne]

Like I said though, none of them actually believe it.  It's just something they are saying to get elected and then deny later on.  No biggie.

I remember when I thought the Supreme Court wouldn't overturn Roe. I got an embarrassing amount of egg on my face, as a result.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Also, if a house member votes against certifying an election, does it matter if he actually believes it was stolen?

[CNS]

I mean, that article that Chum posted and that Wacky refused to read was about an actual case that is going to be heard by the Supreme Court about whether the future Trumps can make the future Pence not certify elections and what that means. If this doesn’t prove that this very thing is indeed up for action right now by powerful groups of ppl who actually believe it, then I am not sure what would.

[DreamWeaver69]

To be fair, I never read anything Chum links on here. I’m sure nobody reads my crap either. Ignorance is bliss kinda thing.

[Dugout DickStone]

To be fair, I never read anything Chum links on here. I’m sure nobody reads my crap either. Ignorance is bliss kinda thing.

You must be blissful

 

[Spracne]

lol

[mocat]

To be clear, it was wacky who posted the article that wacky himself did not read

[sys]

Also, if a house member votes against certifying an election, does it matter if he actually believes it was stolen?

it does not matter.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

You guys need to quit dog piling on _33 he’s just asking questions

[_33]

I don't think there was dog piling. And I should know because I've been dog piled (I hit a game winning shot at the buzzer in 7th grade bball no big deal)

[BIG APPLE CAT]

oh crap that was you?!?!

[MakeItRain]

@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. 

https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf

The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.

I called you dumb for intimating that supposed liberal college professors influence media coverage.

[DreamWeaver69]

@MIR called me dumb for saying journalism professors dramatically lean left. 

https://www.natcom.org/sites/default/files/publications/NCA_C-Brief_2017_March.pdf

The report also finds that Journalism/
Communication and History are among
the most liberal departments. In fact,
60% of both History and Journalism/
Communication departments report
employing no registered Republicans.

I called you dumb for intimating that supposed liberal college professors influence media coverage.

Liberals do. Liberal professors push their agenda too. It all meshes together in todays mainstream media. Remember when daily press conferences were like must watch TV under Trump? Amazing how that vanished under Biden. Dude can't even find his way off  the stage or know whos alive and actively working on the hill, but the media gives him softballs, because orange man bad is gone.