Incel master thread

[star seed 7]

How do betas figure in here?

these are the people benefiting from BC

BC (and social changes) has allowed "average" women to have purely physical sexual relationships with attractive males.

Say you have a tempty island situation with 100 random men and 100 random women. Going by dating app percentages, 20 dudes are boning 80 of the women, while 80 dudes are trying to fight for the last 20 ladies. How does that benefit betas?

[chum1]

I know that alphas have lots of sex with lots of different women. At the same time, I don't think that incels necessarily consider themselves to be betas, do they?

[mocat]

actually 82 women are boning 72 dudes.

this is down from 2008 (the november of love), when 92 (!) women were boning 90 dudes.


if there used to be 45 alphas, 45 betas, and 10 incels, now there are

50 alphas, 22 betas, and 28 incels.


so like 5 of the betas are now alphas. and although fewer women are boning, they are boning more often due to BC. the alphas can't handle the extra demand all by themselves.

[star seed 7]

Hmm, interesting point

[Dugout DickStone]

actually 82 women are boning 72 dudes.

this is down from 2008 (the november of love), when 92 (!) women were boning 90 dudes.


if there used to be 45 alphas, 45 betas, and 10 incels, now there are

50 alphas, 22 betas, and 28 incels.


so like 5 of the betas are now alphas. and although fewer women are boning, they are boning more often due to BC. the alphas can't handle the extra demand all by themselves.

Sure we can

[mocat]

if you can show me data suggesting the amount of 3somes are up, i could be swayed

[Ksuminnesotacat]

This is sort of like debating wether or not ice fishing is an erstwhile productive habit. Leading to positive outcomes. Or if it is a really  an effective population control measure?  Created solely for the purpose cleansing the defective gene pool of rural and out state Minnesotans  during early season that is?

[sys]

There was no equality for women before the birth control pill. It’s completely insane to assume that anything like that could’ve possibly occurred. And the feminists think they produced a revolution in the 1960s that freed women. What freed women was the pill, and we’ll see how that works out. There’s some evidence that women on the pill don’t like masculine men because of changes in hormonal balance. You can test a woman’s preference in men. You can show them pictures of men and change the jaw width, and what you find is that women who aren’t on the pill like wide-jawed men when they’re ovulating, and they like narrow-jawed men when they’re not, and the narrow-jawed men are less aggressive. Well all women on the pill are as if they’re not ovulating, so it’s possible that a lot of the antipathy that exists right now between women and men exists because of the birth control pill. The idea that women were discriminated against across the course of history is appalling.

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it's been a long time since i've read any of this literature, but i'm pretty sure i recall correctly that peterson is wrong.  women on the pill prefer more masculine men.  i don't have any recollection to either support/not support his assertions about preferences when ovulating/not ovulating, but regardless the hormonal mix of women using hormonal birth control is not the same as non-ovulating women that are not using birth control.

[CHONGS]

Oh he just makes crap up and passes it off as something he "knows". Like the lobster thing.

[puniraptor]

Petersen also said in his book that ability to divorce has harmed women

[Dugout DickStone]

My research shows women are more attractive men when ovulating and when not.

[sys]

https://twitter.com/JonIsAwesomest/status/1286431539597725697

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/guy_freire/status/1456263126601457669

[Institutional Control]

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[steve dave]

lmao, that's very good

[DaBigTrain]

[Pete]

Yes, very good