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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #150 on: February 21, 2019, 11:31:54 AM »
bad person > bad person = liar >>>>> terrible human being

I just started a semantics argument, sorry
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #151 on: February 21, 2019, 11:34:03 AM »
well, my terrible human being basket includes more than just rapists/murderers/terrorists/racists. maybe I'm too strict a judge. but this guy has found his way into that basket and he's staying there.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #152 on: February 21, 2019, 11:36:47 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on February 21, 2019, 11:31:54 AM
bad person > bad person = liar >>>>> terrible human being

I just started a semantics argument, sorry
Yeah, to be clear, I'm equating "bad person" with "terrible human being" fwiw.  Like, I acknowledge that he's not a murderer or anything to that level, but I also acknowledge that he orchestrated a fake hate crime, lied about it several times, and (imo) would have sent innocent people to prison if given the opportunity.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #153 on: February 21, 2019, 11:37:22 AM »
"mentally ill" is too strong imo but this sort of lying is def a disorder.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #154 on: February 21, 2019, 11:38:22 AM »
Quote from: libstradamus on February 21, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
"mentally ill" is too strong imo but this sort of lying is def a disorder.

that disorder has a name and that name is terrible human being
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2019, 11:39:33 AM »
Is it possible that he’s a true believer in radical wokeness and felt the ends justified the means?
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #156 on: February 21, 2019, 11:39:43 AM »
Quote from: steve dave on February 21, 2019, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: libstradamus on February 21, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
"mentally ill" is too strong imo but this sort of lying is def a disorder.

that disorder has a name and that name is terrible human being
Also being a liar
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #157 on: February 21, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
Yeah, that's the end point. I'm not trying to excuse him or anything.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2019, 12:11:01 PM »
Seems like it might be a federal crime to perpetrate a fake terror plot using the mail.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2019, 12:16:45 PM »
It’s a good thing Jussie isn’t running for president because this country would never elect a habitual liar.


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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #160 on: February 21, 2019, 12:25:09 PM »
Quote from: Batt BcKee on February 21, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
It’s a good thing Jussie isn’t running for president because this country would never elect a habitual liar.


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Did we just get inverse “But Hilary”’d?!
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #161 on: February 21, 2019, 12:43:21 PM »
I’d cast a ballot for “terrible human being.”
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« Reply #162 on: February 21, 2019, 12:44:22 PM »
And if you disagree it’s only cause he was so bad at the fake hate crime thing for better pay that there was zero chance of it working.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #163 on: February 21, 2019, 12:54:07 PM »
Quote from: wetwillie on February 21, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Batt BcKee on February 21, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
It’s a good thing Jussie isn’t running for president because this country would never elect a habitual liar.


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Did we just get inverse “But Hilary”’d?!

I don't think so.  This guy's a piece of crap and I wouldn't vote for him. But other people have no problem voting for pieces of crap.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #164 on: February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM »
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #165 on: February 21, 2019, 12:59:34 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.

Did you miss when KSUW spent half a day chastising local reporters and coming up with a fake indictment news story?

This event has affected real lives of real people. Even in the gE safe space.
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #166 on: February 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.
Did the hate hoaxes at KSU cause any harm to the school?
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #167 on: February 21, 2019, 01:07:30 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.

yeah except for the DUI thing which might have hurt his brother
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #168 on: February 21, 2019, 01:10:44 PM »
Quote from: bubbles4ksu on February 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.
Did the hate hoaxes at KSU cause any harm to the school?

not that I know of but I'm open to evidence
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #169 on: February 21, 2019, 01:19:00 PM »
I just wish I could have been there when they were planning the attack.  "So do you guys think the punch in the face, homophobic slurs referencing Empire, racist slurs referencing Empire, shouting MAGA country, rope around neck, and MAGA hats is enough?  I think we need one more thing.  What about pouring bleach on me?"
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #170 on: February 21, 2019, 01:21:57 PM »
Quote from: bubbles4ksu on February 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.
Did the hate hoaxes at KSU cause any harm to the school?

KSU got trashed on social media FWIW and of course most people didn't walk it back after being proven as hoaxes.  I would imagine it caused a small number of prospective students to not enroll at KSU and also made people think "Oh yeah, KSU, that place where hate crimes happen."
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #171 on: February 21, 2019, 01:22:25 PM »
Quote from: chum1 on February 21, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
He didn't hurt anyone other than himself. He's just an idiot.
If you're of the opinion that hate crimes are distinct from non-hate crimes because of the broader effects on the population associated with hate crimes, I think that faking a hate crime carries those same effects.

This was being characterized as "a modern day lynching." 
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #172 on: February 21, 2019, 01:25:38 PM »
I don't think faking a hate crime is as bad as committing hate crime
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #173 on: February 21, 2019, 01:28:12 PM »
Quote from: michigancat on February 21, 2019, 01:25:38 PM
I don't think faking a hate crime is as bad as committing hate crime
I don't either.  There isn't any direct victim.   

I'm saying that the indirect effects of a hate crime (terror, distrust, etc.) are present when you fake a hate crime too. 
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Re: Jussie Smollet
« Reply #174 on: February 21, 2019, 01:30:15 PM »
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