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Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2022, 03:12:35 PMY'all are proving my point, don't rough ridin' put people in jail because they hurt feelings or because they don't kowtow to a judge. Rage, you're being way too harsh, almost seems personal. He lied, his crime is that he lied. We don't need to talk about how bad lying is, we all get that, the thing is that everyone lies, I think referring to him as indecent and abnormal because he lied isn't a standard that you have applied equally. Frankly, I think the dude, and others who do similar things, must have some kind of mental issue. I just don't understand what the end goal was to paying two massive dudes to beat your ass then claiming it was a hate crime. There wasn't going to be any arrests that come from this. It's Chicago, how do you not know that there are cameras everywhere? It was just such a ridiculous plan, I don't know how you don't question the sanity of someone who would plot such a thing.I care next to nothing about this, but the "only a crazy person would commit this crime!" can be applied to a lot of crimes that most people agree should require time in the clink.
Y'all are proving my point, don't rough ridin' put people in jail because they hurt feelings or because they don't kowtow to a judge. Rage, you're being way too harsh, almost seems personal. He lied, his crime is that he lied. We don't need to talk about how bad lying is, we all get that, the thing is that everyone lies, I think referring to him as indecent and abnormal because he lied isn't a standard that you have applied equally. Frankly, I think the dude, and others who do similar things, must have some kind of mental issue. I just don't understand what the end goal was to paying two massive dudes to beat your ass then claiming it was a hate crime. There wasn't going to be any arrests that come from this. It's Chicago, how do you not know that there are cameras everywhere? It was just such a ridiculous plan, I don't know how you don't question the sanity of someone who would plot such a thing.
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 11, 2022, 03:12:35 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2022, 01:16:47 AMHe had every opportunity to avoid jail.Quote from: star seed 7 on March 11, 2022, 07:24:27 AMIf he showed any remorse or took any responsibility at all I bet he avoids jail. Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2022, 09:09:01 AMHe wouldn't have even been charged if he had acted like any decent, normal human being would have after the story broke.Y'all are proving my point, don't rough ridin' put people in jail because they hurt feelings or because they don't kowtow to a judge. Rage, you're being way too harsh, almost seems personal. He lied, his crime is that he lied. We don't need to talk about how bad lying is, we all get that, the thing is that everyone lies, I think referring to him as indecent and abnormal because he lied isn't a standard that you have applied equally. Frankly, I think the dude, and others who do similar things, must have some kind of mental issue. I just don't understand what the end goal was to paying two massive dudes to beat your ass then claiming it was a hate crime. There wasn't going to be any arrests that come from this. It's Chicago, how do you not know that there are cameras everywhere? It was just such a ridiculous plan, I don't know how you don't question the sanity of someone who would plot such a thing.I can understand your opinion but am curious as to what you think a fair punishment would be. Restitution for the police hours wasted?I disagree that he was the only victim. He wasted resources that could've been used elsewhere so other people were victims, it's just hard to pinpoint who and to what extent. I would prefer there was some mechanism to allow recompense to a crime victims fund or something similar over jail, but also think fining rich people demonstrates the criminal justice system as more punitive on the poor.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2022, 01:16:47 AMHe had every opportunity to avoid jail.Quote from: star seed 7 on March 11, 2022, 07:24:27 AMIf he showed any remorse or took any responsibility at all I bet he avoids jail. Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2022, 09:09:01 AMHe wouldn't have even been charged if he had acted like any decent, normal human being would have after the story broke.Y'all are proving my point, don't rough ridin' put people in jail because they hurt feelings or because they don't kowtow to a judge. Rage, you're being way too harsh, almost seems personal. He lied, his crime is that he lied. We don't need to talk about how bad lying is, we all get that, the thing is that everyone lies, I think referring to him as indecent and abnormal because he lied isn't a standard that you have applied equally. Frankly, I think the dude, and others who do similar things, must have some kind of mental issue. I just don't understand what the end goal was to paying two massive dudes to beat your ass then claiming it was a hate crime. There wasn't going to be any arrests that come from this. It's Chicago, how do you not know that there are cameras everywhere? It was just such a ridiculous plan, I don't know how you don't question the sanity of someone who would plot such a thing.
He had every opportunity to avoid jail.
If he showed any remorse or took any responsibility at all I bet he avoids jail.
He wouldn't have even been charged if he had acted like any decent, normal human being would have after the story broke.
i looked up the girl with the B on her face...admitted she lied pretty fast and got 9 months probation...i would have give her a little time in the slam too, tbh
Quote from: dal9 on March 11, 2022, 10:23:05 PMi looked up the girl with the B on her face...admitted she lied pretty fast and got 9 months probation...i would have give her a little time in the slam too, tbhTwo Americas.She admitted to lying after she was shown surveillance video and was presented that she failed the polygraph. That bitch tried to influence a presidential election and she didn't go to jail, nor should she have.
Dude’s doubling down…https://twitter.com/tmz/status/1502570848229732352?s=21
It appears mental illness concerns only come into play with skin color these days. Why?