Author Topic: KU Basketball is Hurting (Read 190024 times)

nicname · « **Reply #1425 on:** February 06, 2024, 10:25:30 PM »

Kansas Conference titles by decade

1900s - 2 (08, 09)
1910s - 5 (10, 11, 12, 14, 15)
1920s - 6 (22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27)
1930s - 7 (31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38)
1940s - 5 (40, 41, 42, 43, 46)
1950s - 5 (50, 52, 53, 54, 57)
1960s - 3 (60, 66, 67)
1970s - 4 (71, 74, 75, 78)
1980s - 1 (86)
1990s - 7 (91, 92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 98)
2000s - 7 (02, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09)
2010s - 9* (10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18*)
2020s - 3 (20, 22, 23)

Will be interesting to see how far they regress post-Self and how they react to it. Their run has been otherworldy.

ben ji · « **Reply #1426 on:** February 06, 2024, 10:27:51 PM »

Quote from: EMAWzifried on February 06, 2024, 09:49:08 PM

Like NU in football back in the day before the landscape changed, they had a nice run.

Excellent comp, KU from 05-22 was basically NU football from 90-01 but with one less natty and a couple of more conference titles.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1427 on:** February 06, 2024, 10:37:12 PM »

Would love to have seen what self could have done at a north Carolina, Michigan, or Kentucky. The Saban of college basketball is a total possibility

deputy dawg · « **Reply #1428 on:** February 07, 2024, 10:47:16 AM »

KSU, Iowa State, KU, and Okie State adjusted pretty well when the conference went from the Big 8 to the Big 12. I think Texas, and maybe TCU were schools that brought competitive basketball teams to the conference, but not threatening enough to really disrupt K-State's, KU's, Iowa State's, and Okie State's ability to compete for conference titles.

With expansion bringing Arizona and Houston, KU's challenge to maintain conference dominance will be more challenging than the initial Big 8 / SWC merger. KU fans have to be feeling a bit on edge - their model of recruiting can now be used by everyone now that NIL is in place. That, and Massa Seff's recent hospitalization on a heart issue, has to be making their fans wonder if that program is in its decline.

PurpleOil · « **Reply #1429 on:** February 07, 2024, 12:35:57 PM »

Quote from: deputy dawg on February 07, 2024, 10:47:16 AM

their model of recruiting can now be used by everyone now that NIL is in place.

I mean... we all know this is what's really taking them down.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #1430 on:** February 07, 2024, 01:16:53 PM »

The portal also makes it harder for them to spend 3 years developing some giant white guy into a double-double machine

Cire · « **Reply #1431 on:** February 07, 2024, 01:24:44 PM »

Self has gone the lazy route multiple times with guys like Cliff alexander and Selby?

Always thought that those are the guys that they're paying to bring in and then they're a mess because Self et al didn't really get to vet them.

Self's best teams have always been built on guys who have been in the program a long time and then they'll cherry pick/pay an instant impact guy.

Exception being their recent title when they brought in the guard from Az St and that one worked out.

But yes, it's getting hard now that everyone can do it and there's plenty of schools that have the same war chest.

Fedor · « **Reply #1432 on:** February 07, 2024, 02:09:44 PM »

Speaking of NIL, a story I heard through someone who may be connected enough to know the guy who heads up the KU NIL cooperative;
There was a meeting with all the KU head coaches, so Leipold, WBB, BSB are all around the table - Self comes in late and immediately points at each in turn and says "I want your rough ridin' money and I want your rough ridin' money..." and "It's all going to the basketball team". I fully believe that Self and ethics are acquainted only through coincidence, but being that much of a dickhead is a stretch.

On second thought, I believe it and he's a total prick.

williamthewildcat · « **Reply #1433 on:** February 08, 2024, 06:27:47 PM »

Scott Pollard is in need of a heart transplant. Hope he gets it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/former-nba-player-and-survivor-contestant-scot-pollard-waits-in-hospital-for-heart-transplant/ar-BB1hWLOp

Pete · « **Reply #1434 on:** February 08, 2024, 06:50:56 PM »

Quote from: williamthewildcat on February 08, 2024, 06:27:47 PM

Scott Pollard is in need of a heart transplant. Hope he gets it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/former-nba-player-and-survivor-contestant-scot-pollard-waits-in-hospital-for-heart-transplant/ar-BB1hWLOp

Damn. Hope he gets one and that donor dies painlessly.

I_have_purplewood · « **Reply #1435 on:** February 12, 2024, 09:52:24 PM »

I know this will come as a surprise to everyone on this board but Self just got two T's and got tossed..

pissclams · « **Reply #1436 on:** February 12, 2024, 09:57:29 PM »

indeed quite a game going on in lubbock

cfbandyman · « **Reply #1437 on:** February 12, 2024, 10:31:25 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on February 12, 2024, 09:57:29 PM

indeed quite a game going on in lubbock

Got absolutely worked over

Sandstone Outcropping · « **Reply #1438 on:** February 12, 2024, 10:38:17 PM »

Damn….

EMAWzifried · « **Reply #1439 on:** February 13, 2024, 01:01:22 AM »

Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?

Spracne · « **Reply #1440 on:** February 13, 2024, 01:19:39 AM »

Quote from: EMAWzifried on February 13, 2024, 01:01:22 AM

Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?

Yeah. That's the moral lesson, dumbass.

EMAWzifried · « **Reply #1441 on:** February 13, 2024, 06:38:34 AM »

Quote from: Spracne on February 13, 2024, 01:19:39 AM

Quote from: EMAWzifried on February 13, 2024, 01:01:22 AM
Pretty chickenshit of Bill to get ran so avoid experiencing the final minutes to that disgraceful exhibition, while leaving his team to take the ridicule. How many times has Bill watched his team roll over overmatched foes in AFH, going late in the game before subbing down? Not so fun when it's you mom, eh Bill?

Yeah. That's the moral lesson, dumbass.

Hee hee. This Big 12 season will get under the skin of all.

michigancat · « **Reply #1442 on:** February 13, 2024, 07:39:47 AM »

The league is tough!!!

EMAWzifried · « **Reply #1443 on:** February 13, 2024, 11:13:19 AM »

Mad, mad, mad Sir Billy, he weakly moped away
to leave Hunter and KJ to continue their horrid play

Sandstone Outcropping · « **Reply #1444 on:** February 13, 2024, 01:59:10 PM »

Very sad to see Hawk fans trying to ride the Chiefs' coattails:

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In the last 2 calendar years going back from today, KU/Chiefs fans have experienced:
• 3 KU Hoops Big 12 Titles (2 Reg/1 Tourney)
• A KU Hoops National Championship
• 2 Bowl Eligible KU Football Teams (1 Win)
• 2 Chiefs Super Bowl Wins

ChiComCat · « **Reply #1445 on:** February 13, 2024, 02:55:14 PM »

In the last year, I've enjoyed great experiences like 2 bottles of Dom Perignon and a box of Franzia.

Spracne · « **Reply #1446 on:** February 13, 2024, 04:55:37 PM »

Quote from: ChiComCat on February 13, 2024, 02:55:14 PM

In the last year, I've enjoyed great experiences like 2 bottles of Dom Perignon and a box of Franzia.

Ok, that's p funny. lmao

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1447 on:** February 13, 2024, 06:41:39 PM »

Kind of sad that Bill has such low self esteem that he can't stand out there and take a good beaten like a man.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1448 on:** February 13, 2024, 09:04:58 PM »

Witnessing the death of a star in Bill Self. Kind of sad honestly.

I_have_purplewood · « **Reply #1449 on:** February 13, 2024, 09:35:39 PM »

Has the game has passed him by? Maybe his indulgence in booze, Johnny's fried pickles and loose coed women have caused a reckoning he hasn't been able to overcome? I

he was better and he had a come to Jesus moment? And listen, I don't judge because we all have our vices but maybe his were\are some that won't hide that beet red face for long? It's a shame.

. I'm going to go back and review those technicals he had to see if It was in fact shitty Big 12 reffing or a relapse. If you don't hear from me soon I will be at the local church lighting a candle for him.