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Citizens United
« on: January 04, 2019, 02:16:46 PM »


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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 02:55:06 PM »
I don’t know that effectively overturning citizens united is the answer, but I would love some pretty serious campaign financing reform, which would probably require a similar amendment.

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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 03:15:23 PM »
This will never happen, but it is a stunt to possibly get pubs on record against it. But would that even be newsworthy?

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Re: Citizens United
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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 04:16:16 PM »
This will never happen



why?
Too difficult. In the words of Scalia, if even 1% of the population opposes an amendment, it won't be ratified.

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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 08:04:41 PM »
is john jay on record for this crap?

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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 08:20:00 PM »
This will never happen



why?
Too difficult. In the words of Scalia, if even 1% of the population opposes an amendment, it won't be ratified.

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It may be too difficult, but Scalia's logic ain't exactly watertight on that one

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Re: Citizens United
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 08:37:20 PM »
This will never happen



why?
Too difficult. In the words of Scalia, if even 1% of the population opposes an amendment, it won't be ratified.

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It may be too difficult, but Scalia's logic ain't exactly watertight on that one
I looked it up after my post. I misrepresented his quote a bit. He actually said that if a bare majority of the population of the smallest states opposed an Amendment, then that would mean less than 2% of the U.S. population could block the ratification of an amendment. Basically, the sum of the 13-smallest states' populations (divided by 2, and plus 13, I suppose) represents less than 2 percent of the total population. Yet 13 states can prevent the ratification of an amendment. I have not and will not fact check this.

My main point is that we just don't really amend the Constitution any more. And the way that every issue immediately becomes polarized, it's doubtful that a proposal such as this one would even get to the states for ratification.

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