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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #275 on: September 16, 2020, 11:15:47 AM »
Mid-tier B12 coaches don't get hired away because OU pantses the conference year after year.  It's the same thing that gets Texas coaches fired.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #276 on: September 16, 2020, 12:42:30 PM »
Mid-tier B12 coaches don't get hired away because OU pantses the conference year after year.  It's the same thing that gets Texas coaches fired.

Yeah this is a great point. The best ones all have like one year windows to compete for a title every four years or so.

But like, it's pretty similar in the big 10, Pac 12, and ACC. Mike Leach left but he's kind of a wear out your welcome guy. Taggart was kind of a strange one but again pretty rare.

The SEC seems to hire from within the conference more often for some reason.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #277 on: September 16, 2020, 01:11:40 PM »
Mid-tier B12 coaches don't get hired away because OU pantses the conference year after year.  It's the same thing that gets Texas coaches fired.

Yeah this is a great point. The best ones all have like one year windows to compete for a title every four years or so.

But like, it's pretty similar in the big 10, Pac 12, and ACC. Mike Leach left but he's kind of a wear out your welcome guy. Taggart was kind of a strange one but again pretty rare.

The SEC seems to hire from within the conference more often for some reason.

SEC coach cannibalism has always seemed so weird to me. Really ups the hate factor tho. Imagine if we hired LittreLL and he was actually good, then jumped to OU after a nice 3-4 year run. Or if Matt Rhule did it at Baylor then peaced out to Texas.
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #278 on: September 16, 2020, 01:15:04 PM »
I really wanted Texas to hire Briles back before I knew he encouraged rape so much.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #279 on: September 16, 2020, 01:21:14 PM »
I'm just gonna put this here because I came across it while looking for SEC schools hiring coaches away from conference foes.

My day has been made   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #280 on: September 16, 2020, 01:26:34 PM »
Mid-tier B12 coaches don't get hired away because OU pantses the conference year after year.  It's the same thing that gets Texas coaches fired.

Yeah this is a great point. The best ones all have like one year windows to compete for a title every four years or so.

But like, it's pretty similar in the big 10, Pac 12, and ACC. Mike Leach left but he's kind of a wear out your welcome guy. Taggart was kind of a strange one but again pretty rare.

The SEC seems to hire from within the conference more often for some reason.

SEC coach cannibalism has always seemed so weird to me. Really ups the hate factor tho. Imagine if we hired LittreLL and he was actually good, then jumped to OU after a nice 3-4 year run. Or if Matt Rhule did it at Baylor then peaced out to Texas.

they also have the weird downward/lateral moves like Houston Nutt to Ole Miss and Muschamp to South Carolina and the oddball wildly successful coach O taking over LSU.

I think the LSU thing should show everyone (especially coaches) that the situation you're taking over makes a hell of a lot of difference in how successful you'll be.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #281 on: September 16, 2020, 02:55:40 PM »
Well an isu coach and an osu coach have won nc's in the sec so maybe more teams should try out mid-tier b12 coaches :th_twocents:
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #282 on: September 16, 2020, 02:59:33 PM »
Well an isu coach and an osu coach have won nc's in the sec so maybe more teams should try out mid-tier b12 coaches :th_twocents:

very true, forgot about those guys. Chizik was such a bizarre hire but it kinda worked!

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #283 on: September 16, 2020, 08:00:05 PM »
Kind of OT, but this thread is like a warm blanket for football discussion.  We need more of this, besides the PITT is getting redundant.
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #284 on: September 16, 2020, 09:50:13 PM »
Minnesota can't afford Klieman but Iowa can. There is no head coaching candidate on that staff now and Ferentz doesn't really have an active tree outside of Ken Wisenhunt.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #285 on: September 16, 2020, 11:21:28 PM »
What do you mean Minnesota can’t afford Klieman?
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #286 on: September 16, 2020, 11:25:37 PM »
Klieman is an Iowan Born & Raised and yes he would goto Iowa in a heartbeat for less money than ferentz
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #287 on: September 17, 2020, 12:43:21 AM »
What do you mean Minnesota can’t afford Klieman?

Let me rephrase, Minnesota has not shown that they are willing to invest in football enough to be able to poach a current P5 head coach. Any coach going from P5 to another P5 will be able to command 5 mil +.

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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #288 on: September 17, 2020, 08:02:21 AM »
Minn spent $130 million dollars on athletics last year.

They hired the hottest G5 coach available on the market place in Fleck. 

They spent $275 million on a new on campus stadium.   

Who out there is poaching away P5 coaches who are any good?   

FSU got Taggart away from Oregon, but Taggart had a lineage down that way.

I suppose Leach to MSU  But WSU athletics is a sinking financial train wreck that's only going to get worse because of the pandemic and the PAC not playing. 


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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #289 on: September 17, 2020, 05:42:21 PM »
This belongs in the Smoke Your Cigars thread, but with the PAC missing out on playing this year there will be a lot of dissention among there teams.  May be great for picking in a few years.
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Re: official: WELCOME CHRIS KLIEMAN -KANSAS STATE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH
« Reply #290 on: September 17, 2020, 09:52:56 PM »
What do you mean Minnesota can’t afford Klieman?

Let me rephrase, Minnesota has not shown that they are willing to invest in football enough to be able to poach a current P5 head coach. Any coach going from P5 to another P5 will be able to command 5 mil +.

I don't disagree with your assessment. However, I'd also like to add that assuming the above is true, that Klieman hasn't done anything yet worthy of $5 mil a year. If we win the conference in year 4 or 5, then yeah, we'll have to pony up money to keep him here. But until that happens, I don't see him leaving for another lateral job.