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« on: December 11, 2018, 02:12:42 PM »
Does this mean that the amount of money we'd pay assistants was set in stone or the amount we'd pay the head coach was set in stone or something else?

It couldn't possibly mean that we were only going to pay whoever got hired as head coach what eff head is getting, right? 

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BS: As we get into the details over the next few days, were there any stipulations put on Coach Klieman or any of the candidates for that matter about the current coaching staff retention?

GT: No there's not. As you go through this process, we have some really great assistants. All we told every candidate is look, we have some great staff. We encourage you to interview as many or all of them, whatever you feel your needs are, because obviously they have coaches they're familiar with and coaches that they've coached with or people they've worked with that are maybe at other institutions. But we never want to say you have to hire somebody, that puts that coach in a bad position and puts the assistants in a bad position if you think about it because they only want to work if they're wanted too. We did tell them here are our staff that we think would be great additions if you wanted to keep them but that's up to you as the head coach. There was never a stipulation on any, whether it was Coach Klieman or any of our candidates, and there were never any real financial issues. They knew exactly what the contract was going to be and those that were interested knew what our parameters were. People take jobs and don't get jobs for a lot of different reasons.


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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2018, 02:16:22 PM »
Sounds to me they said "this is our offer, who is willing to take it? You have x amount for assistants, divide it up the way you see fit"


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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 02:17:43 PM »
It’s hard to trust Blackcats these days, but I gotta think he’s right that we offered more to LittreLL.

Even if it’s true that we went to every candidate and said, “if you’re gonna be our coach you’re going to be the lowest paid in the Big 12,” (which makes no sense at all) there is NO WAY Gene would straight up admit that publicly.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 02:20:07 PM »
If @Blackcats isn't banned yet, I'd like his take.

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 02:25:18 PM »
I don't think I read that the same way you do trim.

"They knew exactly what the contract was going to be" -- I don't think that necessarily means that every candidate was offered the same contract.


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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2018, 02:27:01 PM »
Don’t believe for a second Sean wasn’t a part of the deal.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 02:31:08 PM »
Does this mean that the amount of money we'd pay assistants was set in stone or the amount we'd pay the head coach was set in stone or something else?

It couldn't possibly mean that we were only going to pay whoever got hired as head coach what eff head is getting, right? 

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BS: As we get into the details over the next few days, were there any stipulations put on Coach Klieman or any of the candidates for that matter about the current coaching staff retention?

GT: No there's not. As you go through this process, we have some really great assistants. All we told every candidate is look, we have some great staff. We encourage you to interview as many or all of them, whatever you feel your needs are, because obviously they have coaches they're familiar with and coaches that they've coached with or people they've worked with that are maybe at other institutions. But we never want to say you have to hire somebody, that puts that coach in a bad position and puts the assistants in a bad position if you think about it because they only want to work if they're wanted too. We did tell them here are our staff that we think would be great additions if you wanted to keep them but that's up to you as the head coach. There was never a stipulation on any, whether it was Coach Klieman or any of our candidates, and there were never any real financial issues. They knew exactly what the contract was going to be and those that were interested knew what our parameters were. People take jobs and don't get jobs for a lot of different reasons.
It's a great thing all our coaches haven't been snatched up by other staffs. Since they're in such high demand.

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2018, 02:31:21 PM »
I don't think I read that the same way you do trim.

"They knew exactly what the contract was going to be" -- I don't think that necessarily means that every candidate was offered the same contract.

What makes me read it that way is the words right before and after what you quoted - "financial issues" and "those that were interested knew what our parameters were."

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2018, 02:41:26 PM »
Each person whose conversation included talk of money had a different parameters, mix of money for salary, assistants and recruiting.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2018, 02:42:34 PM »
I don't think I read that the same way you do trim.

"They knew exactly what the contract was going to be" -- I don't think that necessarily means that every candidate was offered the same contract.

What makes me read it that way is the words right before and after what you quoted - "financial issues" and "those that were interested knew what our parameters were."
Good point.


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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2018, 02:56:56 PM »
Where did these quotes come from and who is “BS” above?
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2018, 03:12:17 PM »
It's around 6:30 here:



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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 05:31:10 PM »
Did we offer CK less because we knew that it was going to be a tougher sell to fans? Thinking if we pay him less people will be more willing to accept him as the coach.  Then after a year or two of success they give him an extension with a massive raise.  Will we offer him more on the assistant and recruiting side?

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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2018, 05:33:17 PM »
gene, if you're reading this, please give me a call before tomorrow's presser and we'll go over the talking points again. as i told you in our chat last night, the fanbase doesn't want to hear about "family man" and "decent person" and "great character" and "good community member."

he's a goddamn football coach, not a church reverend!  :angry:

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2018, 05:36:27 PM »
he's a goddamn football coach, not a church reverend!  :angry:

FWIW, kstatesports has added an endorsement from Notre Dame coach/murderer Brian Kelly.

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2018, 05:42:16 PM »
Did we offer CK less because we knew that it was going to be a tougher sell to fans? Thinking if we pay him less people will be more willing to accept him as the coach.  Then after a year or two of success they give him an extension with a massive raise.  Will we offer him more on the assistant and recruiting side?

This one really isn’t complicated. We offered him less because he was willing to do the job for that amount of money.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2018, 06:00:42 PM »
Did we offer CK less because we knew that it was going to be a tougher sell to fans? Thinking if we pay him less people will be more willing to accept him as the coach.  Then after a year or two of success they give him an extension with a massive raise.  Will we offer him more on the assistant and recruiting side?

This one really isn’t complicated. We offered him less because he was willing to do the job for that amount of money.

He would have taken less but there is a floor due to looking small timey and we probably are still below it.
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2018, 06:16:37 PM »
This whole argument is ridiculous. KSU and NDSU fans share a big thing in common. Inferiority complex.

Maybe the guy was offered the amount because he’s not coached at this level? So what if he gets a big raise in a year or two? Doesn’t that mean he’s doing a good job?

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2018, 06:37:08 PM »
This whole argument is ridiculous. KSU and NDSU fans share a big thing in common. Inferiority complex.

Maybe the guy was offered the amount because he’s not coached at this level? So what if he gets a big raise in a year or two? Doesn’t that mean he’s doing a good job?

Neither has venzy and we offered him over 5.  I’m fine with a big raise if he is whipping ass in two years time.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2018, 07:52:57 PM »
I am fine with a big raise as well if he wins.  I was thinking more of the optics of a low initial and just raise it later.

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