we are an immoral nation and i'm too comfortable and apathetic to do anything ab

[catastrophe]

Or that they’re emboldened because we’re not caging as many children?

[sonofdaxjones]

Or that they’re emboldened because we’re not caging as many children?

I’ll engage you on this when you admit that the previous administration installed those cages and you didn’t start caring about any of this until Trump was elected. 

Remember, your guy caged and deported hundreds of thousands of people even in the face of 100’s of thousands fewer crossers. 

[catastrophe]

I started caring when officials argued that taking immigrants’ kids was a good way to deter them from trying to come here.

But my question to you is what we should be doing differently to address cartel violence in Mexico.

[sonofdaxjones]

I started caring when officials argued that taking immigrants’ kids was a good way to deter them from trying to come here.

But my question to you is what we should be doing differently to address cartel violence in Mexico.

So you’re admitting that you didn’t care when the previous administration separated families, took the patriarch and geo relocated him across the border 1000 miles away (into the hands of suspicious cartels) and deported hundreds of thousands of people?  You only started caring about any of this when Trump became president.

Figures

[star seed 7]

Geo relocate is some grade A daxspeak

[sonofdaxjones]

Geo relocate is some grade A daxspeak

I’ve discussed it many times LibBot.9

[catastrophe]

I just told you, I started caring when the reason for the “geo-relocation” was to torture the families and scare future immigrants from trying to come here. If you’re saying that didn’t happen until Trump then yeah, I didn’t care until Trump.

[sonofdaxjones]

I just told you, I started caring when the reason for the “geo-relocation” was to torture the families and scare future immigrants from trying to come here. If you’re saying that didn’t happen until Trump then yeah, I didn’t care until Trump.

That’s not what I’m saying.  Your guy built the cages and held children in them.  Your guy geo relocated.  Your guy deported hundreds of thousands of people.

[catastrophe]

Why do you keep ignoring the very clear distinction I’m making?

[Spracne]

Lol. Is this your first time arguing with dax?

[MakeItRain]

I just told you, I started caring when the reason for the “geo-relocation” was to torture the families and scare future immigrants from trying to come here. If you’re saying that didn’t happen until Trump then yeah, I didn’t care until Trump.

That’s not what I’m saying.  Your guy built the cages and held children in them.  Your guy geo relocated.  Your guy deported hundreds of thousands of people.

He very clearly answered your question, are you going to ever answer his? I'm only interested to see what anal tonguing, sycophantic, slice of insincerity you're going to come up with next.

[sonofdaxjones]

I just told you, I started caring when the reason for the “geo-relocation” was to torture the families and scare future immigrants from trying to come here. If you’re saying that didn’t happen until Trump then yeah, I didn’t care until Trump.

That’s not what I’m saying.  Your guy built the cages and held children in them.  Your guy geo relocated.  Your guy deported hundreds of thousands of people.

He very clearly answered your question, are you going to ever answer his? I'm only interested to see what anal tonguing, sycophantic, slice of insincerity you're going to come up with next.

Well, it's good to see you've broken away in the midst of your weird eternal rage at white people and pseudo intellectual platforming on (insert crat/socialist whackadoo here) to join in on the discussion.

Trump didn't start geo-relocation.   The infamous picture of the border personnel walking by the kids in cages was taken during the Obama administration.     Not a peep about it from resident LibBot Nation.   This is not hard, you guys gave zero fucks about this topic as the Deporter-n-Chief was doing his thing.

[catastrophe]

[LickNeckey]

this is more of an obfuscation than a tapout

when Dax taps-out he just doesn't respond

[sonofdaxjones]

I just told you, I started caring when the reason for the “geo-relocation” was to torture the families and scare future immigrants from trying to come here. If you’re saying that didn’t happen until Trump then yeah, I didn’t care until Trump.

That's a total tapout.

Geo-relocation sent fathers up to 1000 miles away from their families, sent them back across the border where often times, the drug cartels thought they were DEA informants.   The areas they were sent to were not familiar to them.  They also sent kids back across and some cartels thought they were informants as well.

Only a complete idiot doesn't think that wasn't scary to future immigrants.

Just admit that you didn't start caring about the border or immigrants until Trump was elected.   You'll feel better.

 

[catastrophe]

It matters to me that the administration had a justification other than torturing children as a deterrent to immigration.

[sonofdaxjones]

It matters to me that the administration had a justification other than torturing children as a deterrent to immigration.

Yes, because taking their dad away or living under the constant fear of deportation by the Deporter-n-Chief, or sending them back across the border by themselves to be preyed upon by cartels or traffickers was very comforting.

Just admit, you didn't care until Trump, like I said, you'll feel better.

[catastrophe]

Why do you think I care it was Trump’s admin who announced the policy I’m against?

[sonofdaxjones]

Why do you think I care it was Trump’s admin who announced the policy I’m against?

So you for (well, just admit that you didn't even know, because you didn't care) all the other draconian policies, but only became against a singular policy which is designed because so many minors are brought to the boarder by people just looking to use the minor as a means of gaining asylum.   

I don't know why LibBot Nation is getting so mad, so far over a half a million caught and released.   This administration deports at a pace much slower than the Deporter-in-Chief, mainly because of the 180 that LibBot Leadership did on the boarder once Trump was elected, thus blocking various things through the court system.  Totally selling out to open borders movement for political gain, and only for political gain.

[star seed 7]

I like how dax describes deporting people as draconian but taking their kids and throwing them in a cage is progressive

[sonofdaxjones]

I like how dax describes deporting people as draconian but taking their kids and throwing them in a cage is progressive

Remember when LibBot Nation completely melted down about the pictures of kids in cages, and then it was released that the pics were taken during the previous administration and you realized you didn't have a clue that it was even going on (and didn't care)?

While your guy deported hundreds of thousands of people (in the face 1/3 or more fewer crossers) and the only people saying anything about it were fringe immigrants rights movements. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Just short of 1 million border apprehensions in FFY 2019, which means hundreds of thousands of people breaking U.S. law, many of them engaged in criminal activity were not caught at the border.   Many of them driven to the U.S. by the illegal sanctuary states and cities.

Meanwhile Northern Mexico and Mexico in general continues to devolve and the government cedes more and more control to the Cartels who are funded by the easy access across the border into their U.S. markets. 

Sadly, LibBot Leadership sold out for political gain on our about January 2017.

[mocat]

I like how dax describes deporting people as draconian but taking their kids and throwing them in a cage is progressive

i don't like it bc this is an irl position of tons of americans

[star seed 7]

What if we started mounting the heads of slaughtered immigrants on top of the beautiful and architectural STEEL SLATS?

[LickNeckey]

wouldn't work, they would just be quickly cut down with recips