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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2010, 01:17:19 PM »
I'd put Rick Majerus in the honorable mention.  Guy has  Wac, Mac and MWC championship titles Plus if your throwing Brad Stevens into the mix apparently it just takes a runner up finish in the NC game to make Honorable Mention

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2010, 01:28:31 PM »
i guess i shouldn't have included an others list of which has confused the hell out of idiots across the spectrum.

I'd put Rick Majerus in the honorable mention.  Guy has  Wac, Mac and MWC championship titles Plus if your throwing Brad Stevens into the mix apparently it just takes a runner up finish in the NC game to make Honorable Mention

i forgot majerus was still coaching.  if you want to throw him in with the 'others' then i wouldn't have a problem w/ that.
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Re: Top 10 Coaches in College Basketball
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2010, 01:47:33 PM »
Isn't Sutton coaching at San Fran?  I really like Eddie.  :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :driving: :CRASH!:

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2010, 03:05:44 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2010, 03:31:15 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

Izzo, Huggins and Coach K are fantastic recruiters.  Fantastic.

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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2010, 03:34:26 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

Izzo, Huggins and Coach K are fantastic recruiters.  Fantastic.

Anyone any where near the top 10 coaches are going to be fantastic recruiters.  I'm just saying that some dudes can recruit like crazy but never really seem to do anything special with that talent.  Sometimes a dude's recruiting abilities can help cover possible coaching deficiencies.  Obviously Coach K, Izzo, and Huggs recruit like mothers, but they actually get great results with that talent...

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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2010, 03:35:54 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

Izzo, Huggins and Coach K are fantastic recruiters.  Fantastic.

Anyone any where near the top 10 coaches are going to be fantastic recruiters.  I'm just saying that some dudes can recruit like crazy but never really seem to do anything special with that talent.  Sometimes a dude's recruiting abilities can help cover possible coaching deficiencies.  Obviously Coach K, Izzo, and Huggs recruit like mothers, but they actually get great results with that talent...

Cal has gotten more results than Huggins, fwiw.

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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2010, 03:36:10 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.




Self took Tulsa to the Elite Eight and won at Oral Roberts, dumbass.

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Re: Top 10 Coaches in College Basketball
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2010, 03:37:45 PM »
1.  Tom Izzo
2.  Coach K
3.  Roy Williams
4.  Rick Pitino
5.  Jim Calhoun
6.  Bill Self
7.  Billy Donovan
8.  Bob Huggins
9.  Mark Few
10.  Tubby Smith

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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2010, 03:38:06 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories:  

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

yeah, we should also have separate championships for each type of coach.  

Because it matters how you win your games.

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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2010, 03:38:52 PM »
yeah, we should also have separate championships for each type of coach.  

Because it matters how you win your games.

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2010, 03:39:52 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

Izzo, Huggins and Coach K are fantastic recruiters.  Fantastic.

Anyone any where near the top 10 coaches are going to be fantastic recruiters.  I'm just saying that some dudes can recruit like crazy but never really seem to do anything special with that talent.  Sometimes a dude's recruiting abilities can help cover possible coaching deficiencies.  Obviously Coach K, Izzo, and Huggs recruit like mothers, but they actually get great results with that talent...

Cal has gotten more results than Huggins, fwiw.

Cal has also had unbelievable talent on his teams.  Huggs would have like one top NBA type of guys, Cal would have several.  

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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2010, 03:41:33 PM »
Cal has also had unbelievable talent on his teams.  Huggs would have like one top NBA type of guys, Cal would have several.  

IT DOESN'T MATTER

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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2010, 03:41:54 PM »
yeah, we should also have separate championships for each type of coach.  

Because it matters how you win your games.

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We do have separate types of championships.  D1, D2, juco, NAIA, high school, etc.  And it does matter how you win your games.  You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  

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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2010, 03:42:03 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.

Izzo, Huggins and Coach K are fantastic recruiters.  Fantastic.

Anyone any where near the top 10 coaches are going to be fantastic recruiters.  I'm just saying that some dudes can recruit like crazy but never really seem to do anything special with that talent.  Sometimes a dude's recruiting abilities can help cover possible coaching deficiencies.  Obviously Coach K, Izzo, and Huggs recruit like mothers, but they actually get great results with that talent...

Cal has gotten more results than Huggins, fwiw.

Cal has also had unbelievable talent on his teams.  Huggs would have like one top NBA type of guys, Cal would have several.  

I fail to see how this makes Cal a worse coach. Results are all that matters.

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« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2010, 03:44:04 PM »
yeah, we should also have separate championships for each type of coach.  

Because it matters how you win your games.

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We do have separate types of championships.  D1, D2, juco, NAIA, high school, etc.  And it does matter how you win your games.  You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  



How about taking Tulsa to an Elite Eight?


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« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2010, 03:44:12 PM »
You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  

Do you get a bigger trophy or something?  :dunno:

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« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2010, 03:44:24 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.




Self took Tulsa to the Elite Eight and won at Oral Roberts, dumbass.

He also failed to get KU out of the 2nd round in 3 of 7 seasons.

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« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2010, 03:45:15 PM »
You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  

Do you get a bigger trophy or something?  :dunno:

If they do the guy who recruited the better talent should get the bigger trophy because it has less to do with luck.

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« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2010, 03:46:30 PM »
Should probably have like 2 categories: 

A)  Legitimate good coaches, who could take an untalented team and still get some decent play out of it-  Ex- Coach K, Izzo, Huggins, etc.

B)  Dudes that recruit like crazy (and have good records because of it) but probably aren't that great of coaches.  Barnes, Calipari, Self, etc.

Huggs took a horrible KSU team and got them within a game of the tourney.  Barnes took an incredibly talented Texas team and damn near didn't make the tournament.  Coach K took a bunch of crackers and won the damn thing.  Calipari took five first rounders and missed out on even a Final Four.  Izzo somehow found a way to make another Final Four, Self took 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a drunk, a weasel, two mongoloids, and a point plank'r and got UNI'd.  That kind of stuff.




Self took Tulsa to the Elite Eight and won at Oral Roberts, dumbass.

He also failed to get KU out of the 2nd round in 3 of 7 seasons.



He also won a national championship, six straight Big 12 titles, and took KU to three Elite Eights. 




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Re: Top 10 Coaches in College Basketball
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2010, 03:47:50 PM »
You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  

Do you get a bigger trophy or something?  :dunno:

Ok fine, we'll just simply rank the coaches on winning percentages.  

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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2010, 03:49:40 PM »
Cal has also had unbelievable talent on his teams.  Huggs would have like one top NBA type of guys, Cal would have several.  

IT DOESN'T MATTER

I'm not sure what you're getting at here

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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2010, 03:50:58 PM »
You really think that taking Butler to the NC would be the same as taking UK or KU to the NC?  

Do you get a bigger trophy or something?  :dunno:

If they do the guy who recruited the better talent should get the bigger trophy because it has less to do with luck.

How many games are decided purely on luck?  Was KSU just unlucky for like 20 years?

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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2010, 04:22:43 PM »
1.  Tom Izzo
2.  Coach K
3.  Roy Williams
4.  Rick Pitino
5.  Jim Calhoun
6.  Bill Self
7.  Billy Donovan
8.  Bob Huggins
9.  Mark Few
10.  Tubby Smith

The restraint it took to make this list is no doubt unimaginable.  I mean Self is at #6.   #6!

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« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2010, 04:38:15 PM »
Pretty sure Cal has had like two seasons removed from the record books... Soooo that makes him at least in the top 5 imo.
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