2020 presidential candidate 'crats

[MakeItRain]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/aoc-bernie-sanders-campaign-iowa

Cross post?

Sounds like Team AOC was all ready to go Cancel Culture over Joe Rogan.

Things like this are what frustrates me about Bernie and how he's choosing to run his campaign in 2020. The Rogan stuff and getting pissed at AOC because she had the temerity to actually express Bernie's true feelings about ICE instead of soft-pedaling to not offend potential voters. If you're going to be a progressive then be one.

If there's one thing we can all agree on about Bernie it's that he's a half-hearted progressive.

That isn't my critique, I think his ambition to be president sometimes gets in the way of progressive ideals. To me, it gives pause about whether or not he will have the stomach to be a change agent or he will legislate to try to win or keep a legislative majority in 2022, then legislate to win re-election in 2024.

[MakeItRain]

It would be incredibly stupid for the party to nominate someone who doesn't have the plurality of delegates.

It would literally destroy the party. I'd take four more years of trump's racist bullshit if it led to the destruction of the Democratic Party.

[MakeItRain]

Lib twitter is all sorts of mad about Bloomberg. Makes me think Bloomy may be alright. Which is something considering Bloomy’s work to date trying to convince me he isn’t. Quite the pickle.


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If you read that twitter string and are cool with that infiltrating our political system, I'm perfectly cool with you being on the dax side of the issue. That didn't even mention that he has one of the largest news media companies in the country and instructed them not to cover him critically.

[sys]

Do they explain what "no one" means? Because literally no one representing the Democrats against Trump kinda seems unlikely

I think it means that no candidate has been determined by the start of the convention. Possibly because none have a majority of delegates or something like that. ???

yeah, that no one receives a majority of pledged delegates.  the model also gives the odds that each candidate receives a majority or plurality of pledged delegates.  sanders is at 53% for the latter at the moment.

[steve dave]

Lib twitter is all sorts of mad about Bloomberg. Makes me think Bloomy may be alright. Which is something considering Bloomy’s work to date trying to convince me he isn’t. Quite the pickle.


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If you read that twitter string and are cool with that infiltrating our political system, I'm perfectly cool with you being on the dax side of the issue. That didn't even mention that he has one of the largest news media companies in the country and instructed them not to cover him critically.

Uhhhh, no. That was the part where he was doing his best to convince me isn’t alright.


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[gatoveintisiete]

Yes Bloomberg is an awful person.

[mocat]

lmao

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1228034856514396161?s=19

[8manpick]

Lib twitter is all sorts of mad about Bloomberg. Makes me think Bloomy may be alright. Which is something considering Bloomy’s work to date trying to convince me he isn’t. Quite the pickle.


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If you read that twitter string and are cool with that infiltrating our political system, I'm perfectly cool with you being on the dax side of the issue. That didn't even mention that he has one of the largest news media companies in the country and instructed them not to cover him critically.

I think it’s bad that it is a part of our political system, kind of like how I think that the Belicheck/Vrabel trick to do delay of game-false start-delay of game to milk more time off the clock is bad. It is bad, but within the rules, so if you have the means to do it and decide not to, you aren’t playing to win. 

I appreciate that Bloomberg is seemingly playing to win.

[michigancat]

Lib twitter is all sorts of mad about Bloomberg. Makes me think Bloomy may be alright. Which is something considering Bloomy’s work to date trying to convince me he isn’t. Quite the pickle.


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If you read that twitter string and are cool with that infiltrating our political system, I'm perfectly cool with you being on the dax side of the issue. That didn't even mention that he has one of the largest news media companies in the country and instructed them not to cover him critically.

Uhhhh, no. That was the part where he was doing his best to convince me isn’t alright.


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The left is also kind of mad at bloomy for the racist-y stuff fwiw

[star seed 7]

Also him spending $1 billion on this election has me pretty uneasy.

[XocolateThundarr]

It would be incredibly stupid for the party to nominate someone who doesn't have the plurality of delegates.

It would literally destroy the party. I'd take four more years of trump's racist bullshit if it led to the destruction of the Democratic Party.

I think that could definitely happen if he is re-elected.  Seems to me they have already accomplished a fair amount of irreparable damage to the party.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I thought Trump becoming the nominee would destroy the republican party. I guess it still might in the long run.

[steve dave]

I thought Trump becoming the nominee would destroy the republican party. I guess it still might in the long run.

The Republican Party showed incredible adaptability. Most members were able to re-align their values and key policy positions to conform with their new leader. It’s officially the party of Trump now for an unfortunate majority of the party.

Will be interesting if the Dems can do the same if Bernie wins.


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[Rage Against the McKee]

I thought Trump becoming the nominee would destroy the republican party. I guess it still might in the long run.

The Republican Party showed incredible adaptability. Most members were able to re-align their values and key policy positions to conform with their new leader. It’s officially the party of Trump now for an unfortunate majority of the party.

Will be interesting if the Dems can do the same if Bernie wins.


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Yeah. Do you think they stay MAGA post-Trump or do they go back to pretending they aren't racist nationalists?

[sonofdaxjones]

Trump has $200 million plus in the war chest now.  If Bernie gets nominated the money will come pouring in from everywhere. 

If you want Trump gone you sure AF don’t want Bernie.  FFS #facepalm

[chum1]

Also him spending $1 billion on this election has me pretty uneasy.

It would have been hilarious if he'd instead offered Trump that money in exchange for resigning.

[michigancat]

I thought Trump becoming the nominee would destroy the republican party. I guess it still might in the long run.

The Republican Party showed incredible adaptability. Most members were able to re-align their values and key policy positions to conform with their new leader. It’s officially the party of Trump now for an unfortunate majority of the party.

Will be interesting if the Dems can do the same if Bernie wins.


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Trump's key policy positions are pretty much indistinguishable from pre-trump mainline Republican positions which made it pretty easy for them. Dems will need to shift more with Bernie

[catastrophe]

Are you calling them key just because they’re the ones most Republicans agree with?

I’ve had a very hard time determining what Trump prioritizes policy wise.

[michigancat]

Are you calling them key just because they’re the ones most Republicans agree with?

I’ve had a very hard time determining what Trump prioritizes policy wise.

build the wall
give tax breaks to the rich
repeal obamacare
own the libs

he maybe shifted the order of priority around but republicans were not veering too far from those way back in the 2016 primaries. It's why Rubio and Jeb were trying to throw insults back at Trump instead of critiquing his policies. Because they didn't disagree with any of his policies.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Trump was the only republican candidate for president who wanted to build a wall in 2016.

[michigancat]

Trump was the only republican candidate for president who wanted to build a wall in 2016.

perhaps literally, but did any disagree with the fundamentals?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Trump was the only republican candidate for president who wanted to build a wall in 2016.

perhaps literally, but did any disagree with the fundamentals?

Probably just Jeb.

[catastrophe]

When Republicans were fiscally conservative and did not want to take money away from the military I think they were generally anti-wall.

[CHONGS]

LOL, he was they only one with the guts to admit it and vocalize what Republicans have been wanting for decades. 

Trump is the natural progression of Republican thought and policies.

[chum1]

They used to call it "border security." They're happy to replace that with "the wall." Or with "shooting trespassers on sight." The KEY thing is keeping outsiders out.