2020 presidential candidate 'crats

[Institutional Control]

Seems like people resent Pete for being a moderate gay. Like he has an obligation to be uber liberal because he’s a homosexual.

It will be hard to win the general election just being gay and impossible to win being super liberal and gay.


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This is one of the most insincere things I've ever read on gE. It's insincere because you know it's 100% bullshit, the issues with Pete has been discussed ad naseum on here. I thought Magary also did a great job describing Pete, he's Obama 2.0. You know the guy who had the chance to make transformative change with our health care but he wasted the two years of the majority he had trying to build a bipartisan consensus that was never going to exist, now were stuck with half assed Obamacare.

I'll vote for him when he inevitably wins the nomination, so will Magary, Rusty, and Kat Kid, but it's more than fair to critique him for being a presidential social experiment who has gotten to #2 in the polls without actually taking any policy stance.

I think Medicare For All will eff more crap up than it will fix. My parents are on Medicare it basically covers the bare minimum. So much that my parents drive 2 hours to Topeka twice a month so my dad can go to the VA.  That said, I don't think of the candidates who support M4A as pieces of crap and I will absolutely pull the lever for Sanders or Warren over Trump.

Is Pete pandering to a certain voter? Yes. Are all the candidates pandering to a certain voter? Again, yes.  Does that make them all pieces of crap, or just Pete?

I think Obama tried and failed in his first 2 years in office to make this country less divisive.  I think he had the best of intentions but he underestimated the GOPs ability to rally the troops against any and everything he wanted to do.  As a result, he made concessions in the ACA that he didn't have to make and mumped it up.

I think taking back the Senate should be the primary focus of the Democrats in 2020. Mitch McConnell has done way more damage to this country than Trump has.

[MakeItRain]

I'll speak for myself and not others but I have zero issue with anyone who supports BotEdgeEdge, frankly he's the best moderate choice depending or not if you count Booker as a moderate. However, for me I think it's time for a generational political change; FDR, Kennedy, Nixon, Regan... Politically we've been in the same place for 40 years and it's been 60 since we've moved significantly left and it shows as I think many civil rights have devolved. Aside from Trump's embarrassing and criminal behavior, I don't even think what little governance he's done has moved us significantly more to the right of where we've been before he was elected.

[catastrophe]

Pete scratches my moderate itch for sure. I agree he probably isn’t going to do much to compel the Dems to action, but if they did win a majority in the house and senate, Pete would do a great job of shepherding some pretty common sense reforms including the Public option.

[Spracne]

Yeah, if the Dems win the Senate, I want Pete in the Executive.

[sonofdaxjones]

Mayor Pete:  Just not whackadoo enough for LibBot Nation

[nicname]

Pete has never struck me as “aw shucks”-y

Oh, he's very aw shucks-y but it's definitely in a pandering manner. He doesn't do it when he's speaking to a national audience but he sure as eff does it to Midwestern and Rust Belt audiences.

Classic narcissistic behavior.

[sys]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

i don't even think their unrealistic, pie in the sky, no chance in hell of passing policy proposals are that different for that matter.

[star seed 7]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

i don't even think their unrealistic, pie in the sky, no chance in hell of passing policy proposals are that different for that matter.

Yes, this is why I care very little about specific policies as long as the discussion keeps pushing left. A good communicator is far more important than the perfect policy position.

[Kat Kid]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

i don't even think their unrealistic, pie in the sky, no chance in hell of passing policy proposals are that different for that matter.

I think people wildly underestimate the power of organized labor, even in its current weakened state.  My evidence?  Teacher strikes.  Bernie is the only one that has the possibility of wielding it.

[8manpick]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

Yep. This is even more true if you think that Pete doesn’t care about the policies and just wants power (not my view, but still).

[sys]

bloomberg, what r u doing?

[star seed 7]

https://twitter.com/JasonAbbruzzese/status/1192568990423347201

[steve dave]

I’m hornt for this moderate energy


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[michigancat]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

i don't even think their unrealistic, pie in the sky, no chance in hell of passing policy proposals are that different for that matter.

Yes, this is why I care very little about specific policies as long as the discussion keeps pushing left. A good communicator is far more important than the perfect policy position.

Pete doesn't push the conversation left. Even if Sanders never actually enacts any of his policies (which I think is what sys is implying) he's at least brought M4A to the top of the Democratic agenda which is a positive that Pete is actively fighting.

[MakeItRain]

bloomberg, what r u doing?

Giving Liz a waltz to the nomination  thank goodness for uncontrolled ego

[MakeItRain]

i don't agree with the buttigieg = status quo, sanders/warren = radical change, btw.  they're all going to deliver the exact same amount of radical change (if everything goes absolutely perfectly for dems) and that is however much radical change manchin and sinema agree is desirable.

i don't even think their unrealistic, pie in the sky, no chance in hell of passing policy proposals are that different for that matter.

Sure, but I'll be damned if I'm just going to roll over and accept this as fact. There is extreme racial and economic inequity in this country, are we just supposed to say oh well and not give a eff? Must be nice to have that ability.

[sonofdaxjones]

Mike registers for Bama primary.  Chairman Xi perks up

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1192585604854374403?s=21

[wetwillie]

ChiCom Joe has some competition!

[sonofdaxjones]

Multiple MSM news outlets were pretty damn  at the prospect of one of Wall Street's favorite sons entering the race, and possibly unseating one of the socialist whackjobs.

Chairman Xi has called a meeting . . .

[steve dave]

lmao

https://twitter.com/federicca/status/1192593117708509190?s=20

[sonofdaxjones]

lmao

https://twitter.com/federicca/status/1192593117708509190?s=20

But he'll have a (D) next to his name and that's all that matters for the vast majority of LibBot Nation.

Sounds like a real bomb droppin kind of guy.

[star seed 7]

Gross

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/trillburne/status/1192612755292880897


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[sonofdaxjones]

T&P's utterly disenfranchised resident LibBots.   

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1192832049754857473


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