Author Topic: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats (Read 545850 times)

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #3475 on:** October 29, 2019, 04:26:43 PM »

spoiler alert, nerds and dorks don't win especially not dorky nerds.

catastrophe · « **Reply #3476 on:** October 29, 2019, 04:43:51 PM »

Quote from: sys on October 29, 2019, 03:38:00 PM

Quote from: catastrophe on October 29, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
These people: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-there-be-a-moderate-lane-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/

bacon basically argues that a) half of the dem electorate is moderate or conservative and b) that voters don't usually vote along (self-described) ideological axes. he also states in that article that biden might be ideally placed to form a coalition among (self-described) non-liberals.

other than the title being phrased as a question, i don't see much, if anything, there that supports your assertion.

i'll add (more to rage than to you) that while buttigieg is ideologically placed among the moderates, and he has been clearly trying to reposition himself further to the right, afaik, most of his support still comes from (self-described) liberals.

My assertion was that the perception from the outset was that the odds are against a moderate candidate winning the democratic primary. That’s exactly what the article is about.

sys · « **Reply #3477 on:** October 29, 2019, 05:17:41 PM »

bacon's article sets up that argument as "if you follow politics through cable news, or via twitter...".

it is setting that up not as a predominant view but as a misunderstanding based on how one might be inadvertently filtering perceptions of the electorate.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #3478 on:** October 31, 2019, 10:32:03 AM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/bill-clinton-fuels-rumors-of-a-hillary-2020-run-she-may-or-may-not-run-video/

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #3479 on:** November 01, 2019, 09:31:47 AM »

Plenty of open slots coming at your local Medical Schools.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/elizabeth-warren-releases-plan-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all.html

bucket · « **Reply #3480 on:** November 01, 2019, 09:37:41 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 31, 2019, 10:32:03 AM

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/bill-clinton-fuels-rumors-of-a-hillary-2020-run-she-may-or-may-not-run-video/

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #3481 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:33:35 PM »

Beto

Spracne · « **Reply #3482 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:39:44 PM »

His supporter will likely pivot to Bernie.

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #3483 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:41:50 PM »

Sys will know

MakeItRain · « **Reply #3484 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:43:51 PM »

Goddamnit Beto, I'm supposed to see this dude speak tonight.

steve dave · « **Reply #3485 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:52:45 PM »

Beto will make a nice VP option for someone.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #3486 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:54:00 PM »

Well, one total whackjob gone.

michigancat · « **Reply #3487 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:55:56 PM »

HOW IS SYS DOING

catastrophe · « **Reply #3488 on:** November 01, 2019, 04:59:22 PM »

I don’t really see Beto being a great VP candidate.

steve dave · « **Reply #3489 on:** November 01, 2019, 05:00:53 PM »

Quote from: catastrophe on November 01, 2019, 04:59:22 PM

I don’t really see Beto being a great VP candidate.

he pairs nicely with bernie imo

steve dave · « **Reply #3490 on:** November 01, 2019, 05:01:43 PM »

or Liz. to battle the obvious Biden/Pete ticket. Really it's just down to who blinks or dies first between liz and bern.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #3491 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:15:27 PM »

So I'm currently at an event called The Liberty and Justice Celebration. Most of the candidates are here, no crazy Gabbard. The Beto people, volunteers & employees, had no idea he was dropping. There are Beto signs everywhere, the arena is split into supporter sections and the Beto section is decorated. Those people have been standing in the rain outside the arena all afternoon, I feel awful for them, it's devastating. BTW I'm in the Pete section, his campaign invited me.

I've seen one yang supporter and he looks exactly like you'd imagine he would, dude was a young 20 something dressed like Captain America and he has $1000 sharpied on the CA shield.

There are 15,000 people here and it's starting, pics and a report later.

michigancat · « **Reply #3492 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:16:31 PM »

lol great report so far mir

michigancat · « **Reply #3493 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:16:40 PM »

ALSO HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM SYS

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3494 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:37:08 PM »

Yang gang lol

MakeItRain · « **Reply #3495 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:43:23 PM »

Not sure why but Biden's section has had all of their supporter signs removed and it's completely empty. The picture is of his section.

BotEdgeEdge has the most supporters, by far and the loudest.

The Police is the surprise of the night, her section is huge. Lil Klo has a lot as does Warren. Booker has more people here than Biden and Sanders combined. Yang Gang has a few hundred, everyone else is meh.

steve dave · « **Reply #3496 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:43:43 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on November 01, 2019, 06:15:27 PM

So I'm currently at an event called The Liberty and Justice Celebration. Most of the candidates are here, no crazy Gabbard. The Beto people, volunteers & employees, had no idea he was dropping. There are Beto signs everywhere, the arena is split into supporter sections and the Beto section is decorated. Those people have been standing in the rain outside the arena all afternoon, I feel awful for them, it's devastating. BTW I'm in the Pete section, his campaign invited me.

I've seen one yang supporter and he looks exactly like you'd imagine he would, dude was a young 20 something dressed like Captain America and he has $1000 sharpied on the CA shield.

There are 15,000 people here and it's starting, pics and a report later.

TY for your service

MakeItRain · « **Reply #3497 on:** November 01, 2019, 06:48:52 PM »

Actual impressive showing by the police. She paying people to be here? I think if all these people were polled she'd double her numbers.

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #3498 on:** November 01, 2019, 07:05:33 PM »

at Biden/Booti ticket, no black support for either which is probably why Booti's people invited MIR to sit with them.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #3499 on:** November 01, 2019, 07:10:47 PM »

Quote from: gatoveintisiete on November 01, 2019, 07:05:33 PM

at Biden/Booti ticket, no black support for either which is probably why Booti's people invited MIR to sit with them.

There are a larger percentage of black people in this section than black people in Iowa. I was surprised too.

The Yang Gang are acting the damn fool. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire section gets thrown out. The speakers to this point, Iowa Democratic Party employees, have been boring as hell, but they keep interrupting. One dude just yelled "we don't give a damn!"