Author Topic: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats (Read 542056 times)

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7075 on:** April 09, 2020, 09:50:44 AM »

Quote from: Chingon on April 09, 2020, 09:03:35 AM

The main reason I say Bernie supporters aren't going to vote for Biden is because that's what they've been telling me.

The polling has consistently been 15% of Sanders primary voters have said that they won't vote for Biden in the general. For some stupid ass reason there isn't enough (any?) data showing how many moderate voters would have voted for a progressive candidate in the general, logic would dictate that the percentage would be similar.

michigancat · « **Reply #7076 on:** April 09, 2020, 09:53:26 AM »

this was from yesterday

nicname · « **Reply #7077 on:** April 09, 2020, 10:14:57 AM »

Quote from: Chingon on April 09, 2020, 08:18:05 AM

Am I incorrect in assuming most of the Bernie supporters here will not be voting for Biden this fall?

If not, how many of you are going to vote Trump? I think nationally this number will be pretty large.

Not voting for Biden. Not voting for Trump.

Do want to burn it all down.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7078 on:** April 09, 2020, 12:29:50 PM »

The onus is on the candidate to get people to vote for them, blaming voters is dumb.

CHONGS · « **Reply #7079 on:** April 09, 2020, 12:38:19 PM »

Yes but whenever hear people complain about the results I have a distinct lack of sympathy for people who:

1. Voted for candidate they are now complaining about

2. Didn't vote at all

3. Did a protest vote

In that order. If we had a different system I might feel differently.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7080 on:** April 09, 2020, 12:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Chingon on April 09, 2020, 12:38:19 PM

Yes but whenever hear people complain about the results I have a distinct lack of sympathy for people who:

1. Voted for candidate they are now complaining about

2. Didn't vote at all

3. Did a protest vote

In that order. If we had a different system I might feel differently.

yeah our system sucks crap and I don't really fault people for any those because our politics is basically just spectacle and totally alienating for the vast majority of people and the choices are so limited and people's individual political power is so limited and change is so slow and difficult that I think getting pissed at the voter trying to interpret and respond to things as they are is pointing at the wrong target.

michigancat · « **Reply #7081 on:** April 09, 2020, 12:51:19 PM »

Quote from: Chingon on April 09, 2020, 12:38:19 PM

Yes but whenever hear people complain about the results I have a distinct lack of sympathy for people who:

1. Voted for candidate they are now complaining about

2. Didn't vote at all

3. Did a protest vote

In that order. If we had a different system I might feel differently.

Nothing wrong with a protest vote in California.

Also I'm not sure where you're getting this ill-informed and kind of dim impression of Bernie voters

chum1 · « **Reply #7082 on:** April 09, 2020, 02:45:53 PM »

Here is the reaching out.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1248332855257600006

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7083 on:** April 09, 2020, 03:27:38 PM »

Joe Bidens Medicare for All* proposal sucks ass.

*boomers

sys · « **Reply #7084 on:** April 09, 2020, 03:29:15 PM »

should have done under 30 instead of over 60.

chum1 · « **Reply #7085 on:** April 09, 2020, 03:29:53 PM »

*voters

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7086 on:** April 09, 2020, 03:29:59 PM »

Quote from: sys on April 09, 2020, 03:29:15 PM

should have done under 30 instead of over 60.

YES!

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7087 on:** April 09, 2020, 04:11:04 PM »

Still no answer if I'm going to get my Bernie 2020 contribution back. I'll let you guys know.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7088 on:** April 09, 2020, 10:06:08 PM »

Hopefully Joe will continue to read the teleprompter correctly and in a semi-coherent fashion, and not like a mule plucking badger headed whipper snapper.

steve dave · « **Reply #7089 on:** April 10, 2020, 07:53:42 AM »

folks, we're all facing tough times right now. but

catastrophe · « **Reply #7090 on:** April 10, 2020, 08:00:04 AM »

His hair must look terrible grown out if he thought that was better than having it longer than 3/4 of an inch.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #7091 on:** April 10, 2020, 08:40:15 AM »

I bet Pete would throw his tie over his shoulder and whip this virus's ass.

Spracne · « **Reply #7092 on:** April 10, 2020, 10:49:55 AM »

What an odd hairline. Is Pete going to be bald in a few years?

sys · « **Reply #7093 on:** April 10, 2020, 11:14:17 AM »

yep.

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1248606637272817665

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7094 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:25:50 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2020, 04:11:04 PM

Still no answer if I'm going to get my Bernie 2020 contribution back. I'll let you guys know.

Well he's going to continue to provide health care to his staff through November, so no, you're not getting any of your imaginary money back.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7095 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:28:05 PM »

Quote from: sys on April 10, 2020, 11:14:17 AM

yep.

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1248606637272817665

Did he call people who aren't Bernie or busters but won't vote for Joe? I feel like that number is insignificant but growing, he seems to have a growing #metoo issue.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7096 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »

While people continue to complain about Bernie Bots, there's this happening all over twitter. Neolibs are hoping that shame will replace actually having policies that will attract voters.

https://twitter.com/sethgs/status/1247962546658660352

steve dave · « **Reply #7097 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:38:03 PM »

I think most bernie voters are fully aware that they are helping trump by not voting for joe or not voting at all or voting for some nobody. I just think a lot of them hate joe equally so they don't care.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7098 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:45:01 PM »

I'd assume that a sizeable amount of democrats/liberals that aren't voting for Joe, like myself, would prefer him over Trump, but view this as a false choice. Like one of those "gun to your head and you have to pick one..." scenarios and I'd rather not vote that way.

Spracne · « **Reply #7099 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:46:23 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on April 10, 2020, 12:45:01 PM

I'd assume that a sizeable amount of democrats/liberals that aren't voting for Joe, like myself, would prefer him over Trump, but view this as a false choice. Like one of those "gun to your head and you have to pick one..." scenarios and I'd rather not vote that way.

If you're a Trump voter, own it. But don't dress it up as a protest.