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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4425 on: January 15, 2020, 12:52:18 AM »
My takeaway from tonight is that Bernie supporters are just as adept at ruining twitter as MAGA are. My God, what a crap show. There are literally 7 trending topics right now specifically filled with Sanders supporters crying, including #NeverWarren lol, unhinged.

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« Reply #4426 on: January 15, 2020, 12:53:36 AM »

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« Reply #4427 on: January 15, 2020, 06:31:32 AM »
Also Klob forgetting the name of the KS Gov by trying her damndest to remember was pretty lol

I did :lol:.

Just happened to catch this part on the radio and I didn't know who was speaking but def lol'd
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4428 on: January 15, 2020, 07:33:11 AM »
Last night was my first (or maybe first in a long time?) debate this primary. I could only stand to watch like half an hour. My impressions below.

Joe: have no idea if he's actually following along or just pretending to understand that you can now take a photograph with your telephone.

Pete (first time seeing him): similar to Trump in that he cares 100% about himself and 0% about any of the issues he talks about. Really gross, guys.

Bernie: super grumpy. Always thinks he knows this crap better than anyone. Also doesn't play well with others.

Warren: a constant fight between lucid and frazzled in which both sides win. Knows damn well that Bernie knows what he said.

Steyer: nice guy. "I've always wanted to make a big, positive difference in our society and, gosh darn it, you only live once, I'm gonna run for president" energy.

Klob: a rookie on the stage right now, but after this election is over will shoot a thousand jump shots every night after practice and will be back to dunk on your rough ridin' faces next time. Just you wait, motherfuckers.

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« Reply #4429 on: January 15, 2020, 07:46:18 AM »
Also Klob forgetting the name of the KS Gov by trying her damndest to remember was pretty lol

I'm proud to know her...she's my friend...she's...

The best part was trying to mumble something that sounded like a name and ending with “thank you.”

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« Reply #4430 on: January 15, 2020, 07:55:38 AM »
Klob came off way more likeable last night than prior debates. She could have really sealed the deal with a relatable “crap I’m blanking on the name, she’s gonna be mad at me” on her biggest gaff of the night.

Everyone else pretty par for the course. I don’t know why Steyer thinks his “we need someone with outside views and business experience” pitch will work after 3 years of Trump. I’m increasingly convinced that the candidates with no Washington connections are most susceptible to swampy, scandal filled administrations.

I like the smaller field.

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« Reply #4431 on: January 15, 2020, 08:44:29 AM »
So Warren was so bothered by Bernie's comments in 2018 that all the reporting at the time suggests they amicably agreed that they were both running, then 13 months later she remembers this was an important thing and she is still upset about it?

And if the implication is not that it is sexist, then what is the point in even bringing it up?
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4432 on: January 15, 2020, 08:48:52 AM »
Have you gone #neverWarren, like Bernie Twitter?
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« Reply #4433 on: January 15, 2020, 08:50:35 AM »
Have you gone #neverWarren, like Bernie Twitter?

I live in Kansas, it does not matter. I said I was probably a Bernie dead ender from the start. 

I think her backing down on Medicare4All and the cringey Native American stuff had already doomed her for me.
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« Reply #4434 on: January 15, 2020, 08:51:55 AM »
But to take a step back, she would be by far my number 2 considering the rest of the field.  And I honestly think she would be one of the best VP picks Bernie could make.
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« Reply #4435 on: January 15, 2020, 09:01:22 AM »
A combined 150 year old pres/vp might be enough to sway some of the boomer vote away from Trump.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4436 on: January 15, 2020, 09:04:01 AM »
Speed of the captain, speed of the ship.


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« Reply #4437 on: January 15, 2020, 09:18:26 AM »
Speed of the captain, speed of the ship.


I really struggle to imagine what substantively might've changed if Warren and Bernie were both still going to run. Maybe they would've been nice to each other the whole time? Possible, but they are competing in a primary. It is a zero-sum game. I don't understand how this ever not going to lead to some sort of at least somewhat negative campaigning.
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« Reply #4438 on: January 15, 2020, 09:20:24 AM »
Have you gone #neverWarren, like Bernie Twitter?

I live in Kansas, it does not matter. I said I was probably a Bernie dead ender from the start. 

I think her backing down on Medicare4All and the cringey Native American stuff had already doomed her for me.

I like her much more than Sanders. I think it's mostly due to the cringey Native American stuff. Everything about it is great.

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« Reply #4439 on: January 15, 2020, 09:25:56 AM »
It's so okie that it's actually endearing
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« Reply #4440 on: January 15, 2020, 09:28:43 AM »
Yes, and it's completely obvious that she believed it the entire time. She was so happy when the DNA test came back proving her right.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4441 on: January 15, 2020, 09:29:48 AM »
Speed of the captain, speed of the ship.


Until someone proves otherwise, I think every candidate’s focus for the foreseeable future will be on getting their supporters to turn out and vote rather than broadening their base. Seems to be the winning formula.

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« Reply #4442 on: January 15, 2020, 09:35:22 AM »
Both are showing up as trending.


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #4443 on: January 15, 2020, 09:54:39 AM »
So Warren was so bothered by Bernie's comments in 2018 that all the reporting at the time suggests they amicably agreed that they were both running, then 13 months later she remembers this was an important thing and she is still upset about it?

And if the implication is not that it is sexist, then what is the point in even bringing it up?
I read somewhere that it came out in response to the Sanders campaign giving their supporters a anti-Warren script to use. It seems the two campaigns have mostly refrained from attacking each other.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/14/sanders-admits-anti-warren-script-early-states-098786


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« Reply #4444 on: January 15, 2020, 05:19:37 PM »
So Warren was so bothered by Bernie's comments in 2018 that all the reporting at the time suggests they amicably agreed that they were both running, then 13 months later she remembers this was an important thing and she is still upset about it?

And if the implication is not that it is sexist, then what is the point in even bringing it up?
I read somewhere that it came out in response to the Sanders campaign giving their supporters a anti-Warren script to use. It seems the two campaigns have mostly refrained from attacking each other.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/14/sanders-admits-anti-warren-script-early-states-098786



The quote in the article is the one I’ve seen pointed as the negative campaigning...

But volunteers were also equipped with talking points for voters who said they were leaning toward other candidates. In Warren's case, they stated that the “people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what” and that “she's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.”


 :lol: that’s about as tame as you can get, and common knowledge. It is a crappy excuse to stick a sexist labeled knife in a surging Sanders’ back while you’re slippingin the polls three weeks ahead of Iowa. And as KK said two years after the damn one on one meeting took place.

Add in the disgusting way the issue was raised and Sanders’s denial basically ignored by the CNN moderator and you have what looks a lot like a concerted effort at a made for tv/ made for headlines gotcha moment meant to tear down Sanders.

https://youtu.be/O5CUfvoRCx4

The whole display was so gross that when during the post debate another CNN panelist was touting the claim as fact Anderson Cooper had to remind them that it indeed was he said/ she said.

Why would Warren do this? Will it help her win? Probably not. Will it make it easier for her to distance herself from Sanders and back the establishment candidate Biden when/if she drops out? Probably.

It’s a good example of why a lot of people, myself included, question Warren’s honesty and integrity.
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« Reply #4445 on: January 15, 2020, 06:59:05 PM »
I think Warren is doing this because it actually happened and she's honest to a fault.

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« Reply #4446 on: January 15, 2020, 07:09:23 PM »
100% chance Bernie tried to convince her a woman had no shot NOT because of him and his Bernie Bros but because of shitty other types who would never vote for a broad and she should throw in with his old ass.


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« Reply #4447 on: January 15, 2020, 07:28:23 PM »
I think Warren is doing this because it actually happened and she's honest to a fault.

If I had to bet, this would be it. Nothing about this story really helps Warren, and I’ll bet she was actually pissed when it resurfaced. But at this point she feels like she has no choice but to say it’s true.

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« Reply #4448 on: January 15, 2020, 07:31:56 PM »
You do realize this conversion took place a couple years ago.  This was a shitty thing she did.  That's why I'll stick with Bernie.
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« Reply #4449 on: January 15, 2020, 07:33:00 PM »
100% chance Bernie tried to convince her a woman had no shot NOT because of him and his Bernie Bros but because of shitty other types who would never vote for a broad and she should throw in with his old ass.


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Washington Post articles report Sanders staffers said Sanders basically told her that Trump would use nefarious measures against her that would be focused on her gender (among other things).

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